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Old 03-05-2010, 02:50 PM   #1
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brake pedal

have a 2000 magna and brake pedal seems to be getting close to the floor, is there an adjustment that needs to be made or brake fluid needed (if so dont know where to check brake fluid level)

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Old 03-05-2010, 03:10 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by howard sella View Post
have a 2000 magna and brake pedal seems to be getting close to the floor, is there an adjustment that needs to be made or brake fluid needed (if so dont know where to check brake fluid level)
Tell us who built the chassis you have and what model. Im sure there is someone that can help.

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if you dont know how to check brake fluid
please drive slowly and carefully to a service center,
good luck
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Old 03-05-2010, 04:06 PM   #4
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That rig shoudl have air brakes -- no fluid. What are your air pressure gauges telling you and is the compressor running continuously? You may have an air leak.

Best to get it to a service center right away if you're not sure what to do.
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If that unit is a Country Coach Magna, it is a diesel pusher with air brakes (double air system).

There is no brake fluid!!!

Your dash air gauge should read about 120+ PSI after the engine and hence compressor runs for about 4 minutes. If there is no air pressure, there is no brake pedal and your brakes will cause you problems.

If the above is correct you should run the pre-trip brake test frequently, See below.

5.3.3 – Step 7 Final Air Brake Check

Figure 5-5

Test Low Pressure Warning Signal. Shut the engine off when you have enough air pressure so that the low pressure warning signal is not on. Turn the electrical power on and step on and off the brake pedal to reduce air tank pressure. The low air pressure warning signal must come on before the pressure drops to less than 60 psi in the air tank (or tank with the lowest air pressure, in dual air systems). See Figure 5.5.
If the warning signal doesn't work, you could lose air pressure and you would not know it. This could cause sudden emergency braking in a single-circuit air system. In dual systems the stopping distance will be increased. Only limited braking can be done before the spring brakes come on.
Check Spring Brakes Come On Automatically. Continue to fan off the air pressure by stepping on and off the brake pedal to reduce tank pressure. The tractor protection valve and parking brake valve should close (pop out) on a tractor-trailer combination vehicle and the parking brake valve should close (pop out) on other combination and single vehicle types when the air pressure falls to the manufacturer’s specification (20 – 40 psi). This will cause the spring brakes to come on.
Check Rate of Air Pressure Buildup.When the engine is at operating rpms, the pressure should build from 85 to 100 psi within 45 seconds in dual air systems. (If the vehicle has larger than minimum air tanks, the buildup time can be longer and still be safe. Check the manufacturer's specifications.) In single air systems (pre-1975), typical requirements are pressure buildup from 50 to 90 psi within 3 minutes with the engine at an idle speed of 600-900 rpms.
If air pressure does not build up fast enough, your pressure may drop too low during driving, requiring an emergency stop. Don't drive until you get the problem fixed.
Test Air Leakage Rate.With a fully-charged air system (typically 125 psi), turn off the engine, release the parking brake, and time the air pressure drop. The loss rate should be less than two psi in one minute for single vehicles and less than three psi in one minute for combination vehicles. Then apply 90 psi or more with the brake pedal. After the initial pressure drop, if the air pressure falls more than three psi in one minute for single vehicles (more than four psi for combination vehicles), the air loss rate is too much. Check for air leaks and fix before driving the vehicle. Otherwise, you could lose your brakes while driving.
Check Air Compressor Governor Cut-in and Cut-out Pressures.Pumping by the air compressor should start at about 100 psi and stop at about 125 psi. (Check manufacturer's specifications.) Run the engine at a fast idle. The air governor should cut-out the air compressor at about the manufacturer's specified pressure. The air pressure shown by your gauge(s) will stop rising. With the engine idling, step on and off the brake to reduce the air tank pressure. The compressor should cut-in at about the manufacturer's specified cut-in pressure. The pressure should begin to rise.
If the air governor does not work as described above, it may need to be fixed. A governor that does not work properly may not keep enough air pressure for safe driving.
Test Parking Brake. Stop the vehicle, put the parking brake on, and gently pull against it in a low gear to test that the parking brake will hold.
Test Service Brakes.Wait for normal air pressure, release the parking brake, move the vehicle forward slowly (about five mph), and apply the brakes firmly using the brake pedal. Note any vehicle "pulling" to one side, unusual feel, or delayed stopping action.
This test may show you problems, which you otherwise wouldn't know about until you needed the brakes on the road.
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