Clouded windows

cctiz · 02-18-2009, 05:08 PM

CG glass has refused to send any CC windows
Superglass(Andy Rothman) in Tucson 520 404 6522 Did a good job of replacing our door glass in a 07 magna.

**RV Wizard** · 02-18-2009, 11:41 PM

cctiz, welcome to iRV2.com and to the Country Coach Owners forum. We are glad to have you join us here and we look forward to reading of your adventures and experiences. Thanks for the information for window repair in the area. Good luck and keep us posted.

James Wehren · 04-22-2009, 02:35 PM

This is just info for anyone who wants to check. Dave Root in Bend, Oregon, (has a website) repairs existing windows. Dual pane, takes them apart, cleans them, puts them back together at a very reasonable price. He does an excellent job. My sister just had 5 of her windows done for her CC Intrigue, the famous Se-GI windows that fog, creep and are just terrible. He will take them out and put them back in for an extra cost (very reasonable) OR you can take them out and put them in for a lesser cost. Your choice. Give him a call, tell him what you have and he will give you an estimate. Its not like some others that charge by the hour. His phone number is 541 280-3612. If you decide to contact him or use him, I would appreciate knowing your thoughts. By the way, his website is www.freewebs.com/daverootrvglassrepair; e-mail chdrroot@hotmail.com. I am not a relative, never met the man, just found out about him and saw his finished product. I would definitely use him if I needed to. Jim Wehren

**RV Wizard** · 04-23-2009, 03:27 AM

Welcome James. Thanks for the window repair info for that part of the country. Please feel free to introduce yourself to the rest of the iRV2.com family in the main forum New Member Check-In forum. Thank you.

gla · 09-22-2009, 09:56 AM

check out suncoast desigers inc. rv window repair,hudson fl. phone#(727)868-2773 www.suncoastdesigeners.com

StuartT · 10-27-2009, 10:26 AM

Just registered today on this forum and I too have some fogged glass to deal with on my new (to me) Allure. My initial question is can the glass be removed from these frames without taking the frames out of the wall? I noted a rubber bead around the inside of the frame. Will removing the bead release the glass?

James Wehren · 10-27-2009, 03:46 PM

We just did an Intrigue (my sister's) 36's 98. We took out 4 windows, had them cleaned up and resealed by Dave Root in Bend Oregon for less than a new set of windows. Also, there is a company in Grants Pass, OR that does this also. You do not need a complete window. Its just a matter of taking it out and putting it back in. You can do that (take in and out) yourself or have it done. You have Ci-GI windows I presume and they will not even talk to you. If you buy new windows thru them, it will cost you much more. Let me know if you need more info. My direct e-mail is wehren@charter.net

sharbra · 10-29-2009, 11:48 PM

Almost every coach manufacturer who has used Se-Gi windows has had issues with fogged windows. One wonders how the company stays in business.

VERNL · 11-13-2009, 04:47 PM

I just aquired a 2000 Allure. The previous owner had Dave Root reseal all but two of the windows the month before I bought the coach. Everything looks great
VERNL

James Wehren · 11-14-2009, 10:27 AM

Sharbra: I agree with you, I don't see how they stay in business either. The sad part about it is that CC is still installing Se-Gi windows in their new coaches. I just came from a Guaranty RV show. They were displaying new CCs. Every model had Se-Gi windows. Most of the people who tried to deal with Se-Gi windows said they had a horrible time. Too bad for the person who buys a CC. Jim

StuartT · 11-14-2009, 10:21 PM

Does anyone know why they fail. Is the spacer warping or turning over at stress points, or are the spacers rolling in hot temperatures and breaking their seal? Are they not vented and when at higher altitudes in the mountains, the seals are failing from expanding air inside the units? Consider that a normal insulated window for your home is only warrantied to 5000 feet without special manufacturing considerations (venting).

**RV Wizard** · 11-15-2009, 05:20 AM

One thing that can cause the seals to fail is that people will put the foil bubble wrap inside the coach over the windows to keep heat out. The problem is that the heat is concentrated in between the panes of glass, cooks the seals and builds up pressure to cause them to fail. This is a bad practice and if done the bubble wrap should be put on the outside; not the inside.

sharbra · 11-16-2009, 12:09 AM

It has been opined on another forum I am a member of that the SeGi windows fail because of the way the seal has been applied to the layers and others opine that there is not enough of the inert gas between the panes. Either way, on the various forums, there are many repair facilities to be reference. I can't recall, but there is one in the Bend Oregon area that has gotten rave review recently both for workmanship and cost. We, too, are going to have to look into repair as the drivers side window in our coach is beginning to fog.