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Old 07-13-2016, 09:00 PM   #1
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Hello, I have put a down payment on a 2006 C.C. Intrigue jubilee with the 525 cat.b& 35k miles on it. I have read here in the forums there have been problems with the radiator and the PTO. The dealer I am Working with Took it down to the cat dealer on my request to flash the computer etc, and they claim can't says that model was not affected by the bad radiators, and that model does not have a PTO. My flight is in the morning, so I have not physically seen the unit yet, But to my knowledge all of the radiators were an issue, and in my mind it would have to have a PTO to run the hydraulics slides. Any information you could give along with other things I should be looking for when I inspect it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Advance
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Radiator concerns are era specific; mine is affected (2007 Allure) but I have not experienced any issues yet.

PTOs are off the transmission. The hydraulic pump driven off the PTO supplies hydraulic power to the radiator fan and power steering, Mine did not have the wet conversion kit; and I have not installed it as of yet. One of my annual service tasks is to re-grease the splines.

If the CAT dealer made those claims, they may be speaking solely for their engine (?) which does not have an engine PTO, for sure....

Others with a similar unit should be able to provide specific info to watch for...

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I have had my radiator replaced with a Steel and Copper had Cat EC-1 coolant installed and also had the wet PTO installed.
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Make sure the shop is looking at the transmission for the PTO. They, of course, would need to be familiar with the wet PTO set up to identify it.

I see from your profile you are in Idaho. Not sure where the coach is you are considering but if it is anywhere near (reasonably near) Junction City, OR you might consider paying Kevin Waite to travel to the coach and inspect it for you. Kevin is a former CC builder/tech and has a stellar reputation. He has his own repair business and does travel to inspect coaches. He can tell you everything you'd want to know about it.

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The dealer I am Working with Took it down to the cat dealer on my request to flash the computer etc, and they claim can't says that model was not affected by the bad radiators, and that model does not have a PTO.

...I have not physically seen the unit yet, But to my knowledge all of the radiators were an issue, and in my mind it would have to have a PTO to run the hydraulics slides.
Different coaches were configured differently. Here's an image of my C12. No transmission PTO. Pump is directly driven off engine. Slides have their own electrically driven hydraulic pump. Also, as your CAT and/or coach dealer said, it may not be affected by the bad radiator problem. Ours is one of those that is not.

Good luck. Keep us posted on what you find.



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Thanks. For the responses. The motor is a c-13 cat and the coach is in florida.
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Thanks. For the responses. The motor is a c-13 cat and the coach is in florida.
In that case a good resource in FL is Butch Williams at Fountain RV in Lakeland . Butch is another former CC employee and may also do inspection. Butch service manager at Fountain RV.
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Thanks, that was going to be my next question, if anybody could recommend somebody good to inspect it. The coach is just outside of Daytona Beach
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