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02-25-2017, 05:27 PM
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Country Coach security system
Does anyone know what all will trigger the alarm? My alarm suddenly went off this afternoon. No known disturbances, nobody around. This is the first false alarm to go off that I'm aware of. The system is the factory system using the TriMark key fob. I know that the compartments and the door are all set for alarm when set.
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02-25-2017, 08:08 PM
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Carl, you could have had a voltage spike or maybe a low voltage situation. It could have possibly been a spurious rf signal.
I wouldn't worry about it until it becomes more frequent
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02-25-2017, 08:13 PM
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Hasn't happened to me.
But I did have the generator start by itself once. It was a few days after Premier fixed the auto start and I hadn't checked the settings. The "exercise" setting was turned on.
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02-25-2017, 08:56 PM
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Don, I was thinking perhaps a low voltage situation. If it's powered off the chassis battery perhaps, although that should have sufficient charge (assuming the echo charger is doing its job).
Kind of freaked the neighbor lady out....so that was worth it
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02-26-2017, 01:33 PM
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Went off again today. Batteries fully charged and shore power hooked up. Guess it's time to examine all the wiring for shorts or weakness.
Anyone have any knowledge of where the TriMark E-ask module might be located? Prefer to not have to start disassembling the dash without some idea where it might be located.
Any other thoughts welcome.
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02-26-2017, 09:39 PM
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Glad I'm not parked next to you
Good luck in the hunt
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02-27-2017, 04:54 AM
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On my Allure, part of the TriMark system is mounted inside the entry door. There is another box mounted to the front of the firewall on the passenger side. If I run my generator slide out and look up on passenger side, I can see it.
We never use the system.
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02-27-2017, 05:30 AM
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Silly question, maybe, but is it possible a key fob in a pocket is compressing? I can't tell you how many times I've tripped the alarm when I'm bending over to get into a compartment... like when dumping tanks.
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02-27-2017, 09:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smlranger
On my Allure, part of the TriMark system is mounted inside the entry door. There is another box mounted to the front of the firewall on the passenger side. If I run my generator slide out and look up on passenger side, I can see it.
We never use the system.
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Thanks...that's helpful. We use the system because we use the fob or the keyless pad to lock and unlock the door.
blang...no, the key fob is not in my pocket when it goes off. Done that plenty of times with my car keys, tho.
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02-27-2017, 09:57 AM
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Is the alarm system "armed" when it goes off? If not then it might be the electronics package. But if the alarm is "armed" it's very likely it's one of the pin switches or its associated wiring. I would arm the system and then go around and jiggle every door and opening that has a pin switch. They can get lose and allow the plunger to extend to the point where contact is possible. Openings that we don't always think about include the engine hatch, Hurricane/chassis battery compartment, fuel filter compartment, etc.
Good luck.
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02-27-2017, 12:00 PM
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Yes, it's armed when it goes off and the indicator light indicates that it was triggered (rapid flashing).
I've got a call in to Gary at Premier to get his thoughts. Not a particularly nice day out today, so I'm going to wait for some nicer weather before trying to do any trouble shooting. For now, the door was locked with the key to prevent arming the system.
Thanks for all the info provided. I'll update this if and when I find out more.
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02-27-2017, 02:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlAda
I've got a call in to Gary at Premier to get his thoughts.
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Gary is a great resource. And speaking of Gary - on our way to the desert last month we stopped in Junction City to have some work done at Premier. Shortly after we left Premier's shop, the motorized steps at the entry door went berserk and started randomly going out and retracting. He advised that the switch inside the door frame sometimes gets dirty and thus flaky. Acting on that I removed the switch from the frame and hosed it down with contact cleaner. The steps returned to normal behavior and have been trouble free since. This switch is one of the devices that will set off your alarm when armed.
FWIW
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02-27-2017, 03:10 PM
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I did arm the system then shake all of the bay doors and the entry door ... no alarm. The odd thing is that nothing is going on when the alarm goes off, including windy conditions. We have had a lot of rain and it's been cold. I'm leaning toward a bad connection somewhere in the system (which will be a joy to try to find, no doubt).
I had a similar problem with my steps on our Inspire and cleaning the contacts in the door frame with isopropyl alcohol did the trick. Have since traded that coach in on this one, so don't know how long the fix held
Yes, Gary and Premier RV are great. I highly recommend their shop for repair work and maintenance for any of our CC owners in the vicinity of Junction City.
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02-27-2017, 04:47 PM
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My alarm contact switch was intermittently grounding out at my rear engine compartment door when it rained (water would help).
It went off once when we were inside sleeping in a Walmart parking lot at 3:00AM. Scarred the begezzes out of us. It didn't help it was storming outside and the walmart parking lot lights flickered and went out right after...
Happened a second time in my driveway when it was raining (we were in the house).
I removed all the contacts and cleaned them up, seems to have helped.
Brian
PS - My Trimark controller is also in my entry door, behind the panel.
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