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Old 02-11-2019, 11:08 PM   #43
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Is your reference to an "ISL" a 8.3 Cummins? If so, what is your mpg? TY!
It's a ISL 8.9. 72.7K on it and Silverleaf reports lifetime 7.9MPG. So in the last years since broken in - a bit above 8MPG.
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USA Travelor: Take a hard look at a mid to late 1990's Prevost bus conversion. Prevost moved from the two cycle 8V92 Detroit Diesel (a very dependable engine) to the four cycle Series 60 Detroit in the mid-90s. Both came with an Allison Automatic transmission. The Prevost shell was available to two styles: the classic stainless steel sided XL (40') and XLV (45') and the H3-40 (40') and H3-45 (45') which is a taller coach with higher bays and a composite body. Both styles have a welded steel chassis, frames, and structures, were designed to run between 750,000 and a million miles in all kinds of weather and road conditions.

Why buy a 20 to 25 year old Prevost coach? Because the chassis and drivetrain is the best that money can buy, the conversions were done using components and construction techniques that were the best money could buy at the time. Yes there are things on an older Prevost that will age out over time and have to be replaced, but are there on other Class A motorhomes too?

Expect the ride, fit, and finish of both the chassis and the "house" to be second to none. Service on the chassis is available coast to coast at Prevost service centers, most Detroit Diesel/Allison shops, and at many seated coach operators that take in outside maintenance.

Online resources are available to you at the Prevost Community and Prevost Owners Group web sites as well as those website companion Facebook pages.

Conversions run the gamut from the top of the line Liberty and Marathon in those vintages to the Country Coach and Featherlite/Vantare to the "more simple coaches" like the Royale, Beaver, and American conversions.

Do some investigation and do some research before you buy something else.

PS: I drive 63mph on the Interstates, speed limit anywhere else in our Prevost. I'm getting 8.29mph long-term per what the DD computer tells me. We have 112,000 miles on our coach.
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It's a ISL 8.9. 72.7K on it and Silverleaf reports lifetime 7.9MPG. So in the last years since broken in - a bit above 8MPG.
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USA Travelor: Take a hard look at a mid to late 1990's Prevost bus conversion. Prevost moved from the two cycle 8V92 Detroit Diesel (a very dependable engine) to the four cycle Series 60 Detroit in the mid-90s. Both came with an Allison Automatic transmission. The Prevost shell was available to two styles: the classic stainless steel sided XL (40') and XLV (45') and the H3-40 (40') and H3-45 (45') which is a taller coach with higher bays and a composite body. Both styles have a welded steel chassis, frames, and structures, were designed to run between 750,000 and a million miles in all kinds of weather and road conditions.

Why buy a 20 to 25 year old Prevost coach? Because the chassis and drivetrain is the best that money can buy, the conversions were done using components and construction techniques that were the best money could buy at the time. Yes there are things on an older Prevost that will age out over time and have to be replaced, but are there on other Class A motorhomes too?

Expect the ride, fit, and finish of both the chassis and the "house" to be second to none. Service on the chassis is available coast to coast at Prevost service centers, most Detroit Diesel/Allison shops, and at many seated coach operators that take in outside maintenance.

Online resources are available to you at the Prevost Community and Prevost Owners Group web sites as well as those website companion Facebook pages.

Conversions run the gamut from the top of the line Liberty and Marathon in those vintages to the Country Coach and Featherlite/Vantare to the "more simple coaches" like the Royale, Beaver, and American conversions.

Do some investigation and do some research before you buy something else.

PS: I drive 63mph on the Interstates, speed limit anywhere else in our Prevost. I'm getting 8.29mph long-term per what the DD computer tells me. We have 112,000 miles on our coach.
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Wow! Excelent advice and truly something to consider. Will do the research. Thank you!
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Wow! Excelent advice and truly something to consider. Will do the research. Thank you!
You’re welcome. Don’t hesitate to reach out to me direct.
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Update: We Viewed the Coach

Just wanted to give an update on our view of the Country Coach. In short, we decided NOT to buy it. Upon further inspection we found strutural damage and upon entering the coach it wasn't 5 minutes and my husband was sneezing, mold will do it everytime for him. I checked the wall underneath the window area in question and found it to be soft and the outside skin to be delaminating not only around the window area but several spots down the length of the wall. I could go over our list of things that were wrong, but I don't want to say too much as it might be the coach for someone, but it was not for us. We did not expect a 22 year old coach to be "perfect" but maintenace is extremely important as I am sure you all know so well.

I will say that aside from all the "issues" we saw, the craftmanship of the unit was absolutely beautiful! In its day, it was a spectacular coach and all of you that own a CC truly have a beautiful RV. Like one man I spoke to that buys and sells CC's, "CC does not have a 'bottom of the line coach'. They start at the middle and go up from there."

Our search goes on. Thank you all for your input, advice and warnings, public and private. You all have been a great help and we really appreciate the time you took to answer our questions. Safe Travels!
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Thanks for the update!!

There's one waiting for you out there somewhere...you just have to find it.
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Well, that kinda sucks but I'm glad you found the issues now!
NEXT! Keep the faith. There are lots of coaches out there. Let us know how the search goes.

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Thanks for the update, and sorry this one did not checkout good to go for you...

Keep looking, and the right well cared for coach will turn up.

We looked for quite awhile. Spent several thousand in due diligent and flying and or driving long distances to look at prospects...

We learned to not get too excited, until we (Or I!) had done hand's on due diligence...

Pace yourselves... stay solid on what you two are looking for!
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(And note: Yep. It's easy to get excited, and understand that. So again, sorry this one was not the one for you...)
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Thanks for the update!!

There's one waiting for you out there somewhere...you just have to find it.
Absolutely!! Enjoying the "Hunt"!
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Well, that kinda sucks but I'm glad you found the issues now!
NEXT! Keep the faith. There are lots of coaches out there. Let us know how the search goes.

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Yes, we are VERY glad for that!!

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Thanks for the update, and sorry this one did not checkout good to go for you...

Keep looking, and the right well cared for coach will turn up.

We looked for quite awhile. Spent several thousand in due diligent and flying and or driving long distances to look at prospects...

We learned to not get too excited, until we (Or I!) had done hand's on due diligence...

Pace yourselves... stay solid on what you two are looking for!
Best,
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(And note: Yep. It's easy to get excited, and understand that. So again, sorry this one was not the one for you...)
Smitty 77, Thank you for your encouragement! We are not discouraged and if anything relieved that we saw these things before we purchased. We got there before the owners showed up and really looked the outside over. We pretty much had made up our minds before they showed up, but decided to take a look inside. Of course, folks are going to tell you all the "good" things about the coach. When my husband mentioned the outside delamination, the husband was stumped and the wife didn't hesitate to say, "I know exactly what they are talking about." They were kind and polite and the "Goodbyes" were shortly there after. We had a BIG "?" when we saw our delay in getting to it and that it was still up for sale. If it was as good as it seemed, it would have sold. We weren't surprised - check that one off the list and move on. Again, everyone has been very informative here and have been a tremendous blessing. Even the encouragement to "Keep Looking!" Safe Travels!
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Just wanted to give an update on our view of the Country Coach. In short, we decided NOT to buy it.

I will say that aside from all the "issues" we saw, the craftmanship of the unit was absolutely beautiful! In its day, it was a spectacular coach and all of you that own a CC truly have a beautiful RV. Like one man I spoke to that buys and sells CC's, "CC does not have a 'bottom of the line coach'. They start at the middle and go up from there."
Thanks for the update.

It sounds like this was not a Country Coach conversion of a Prevost bus shell, but built by Country Coach from the ground up.

The craftsmanship you saw in the coach you looked at will be very similar to what you'll find a Prevost Country Coach of similar vintage, but without the delamination or water problems you found.

During our search for a Prevost I had two friends try to interest me in the non-Prevost country Country Coaches they knew were for sale. The prices were very attractive, but they weren't Prevost. I had a call early this year to help price a late 90's non-Prevost Country Coach (that the seller admitted up front hadn't been taken care of), and while the interior still showed signs of great workmanship from day one, it had the problems you mention.

I think that the 90's non-Prevost County Coaches can be a good motorhome, but for them to be "good", they must have been properly maintained over the long run and any water issues immediately taken care of.

Good luck with your search!
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