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Old 01-16-2014, 08:44 AM   #15
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Mike, you won't regret getting that Intrigue. While it may not have mucho slides and other bells and whistles of the newer rigs, you will appreciate the ride quality and overall feel of a solidly built quality rig. If it meets your needs, that is all that matters.

Wishing you many happy miles in it.
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Looks great, drives great. And you are happy with the deal.

Well done. Enjoy!
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Old 01-16-2014, 11:58 AM   #17
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go to oodle.com plug in what you're looking for and see what prices they come up with. Then shoot a note to the folks who listed it see if they're willing to tell you what it actually sold for.
good luck and happy hunting.
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Old 01-21-2014, 08:12 PM   #18
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I love my 98 Intrigue. Has one slide(Great Room model). Country Coach calls it the Grandview model. At least that is what my paperwork says. The original owner ordered it with every available option and upgrade that was available. I'm glad they did. I paid $85k 4 years ago. I didn't even look to see what NADA was showing. I didn't care I liked the coach and I plan on running it until either it dies or I do. My time in the Coast Guard taught me to get the right coach(boat) the first time so you don't have to worry about upgrading it to something bigger and better a year or two later. That's when this sport gets too expensive.
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:48 AM   #19
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I said in another thread that I bought my 3rd or 4th coach the first time. If you like the coach and the deal, then it was a good deal for you, no matter the price. Don't worry about NADA, they are only guidelines anyway.
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Over the past two years*we've probably looked at 100 motor homes. Test drove maybe 10 and researched hundreds more. We looked at a 1998 Country Coach Allure today. NADA pricing is very similar to the original posters Intrigue. The asking price is just under average retail. My question is what is a fair price.

Some of you who have posted here say pay less than low retail. I've seen this advice frequently*on this and other forums. But honestly, I'm either doing something wrong or this advice doesn't work on older coaches. For example, I've looked at the sold motorhomes section that PPL lists. For the most part higher end coaches are selling at or above average retail. These are actual sold prices.

Most dealers listings are 20% and more above NADA average. Many private sellers are listing their coaches at 10-20% above NADA average. In fact the overwhelming majority of private sellers asking is at or significantly above NADA average retail. So on this coach, if I shoot for something less than low retail, my offer is maybe $22-23,000. That is 1/3 less than asking. This would be a steal. But I can't imagine any rational individual agreeing to such an offer. Unless of course there are major undisclosed mechanical or equipment issues.

So for those of you who have actually purchased at or below low retail, what's your secret?
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Over the past two years*we've probably looked at 100 motor homes. Test drove maybe 10 and researched hundreds more. We looked at a 1998 Country Coach Allure today. NADA pricing is very similar to the original posters Intrigue. The asking price is just under average retail. My question is what is a fair price.

Some of you who have posted here say pay less than low retail. I've seen this advice frequently*on this and other forums. But honestly, I'm either doing something wrong or this advice doesn't work on older coaches. For example, I've looked at the sold motorhomes section that PPL lists. For the most part higher end coaches are selling at or above average retail. These are actual sold prices.

Most dealers listings are 20% and more above NADA average. Many private sellers are listing their coaches at 10-20% above NADA average. In fact the overwhelming majority of private sellers asking is at or significantly above NADA average retail. So on this coach, if I shoot for something less than low retail, my offer is maybe $22-23,000. That is 1/3 less than asking. This would be a steal. But I can't imagine any rational individual agreeing to such an offer. Unless of course there are major undisclosed mechanical or equipment issues.

So for those of you who have actually purchased at or below low retail, what's your secret?
I gave up on trying to justify the price via Nada. The bottom line I settled at is: you can not buy all this equipment- Cummins, allison, dynomax, air suspension, water heaters, fridge, air conditioning, generator, all in a top of the line package for $15,000 like Nada suggests. Good luck finding all that for $40,000 or $60,000 in California.
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:47 PM   #23
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Garyb - My secret was shopping and buying in 2009 when almost no one was spending any money because the super recession was going full blast. I paid quite a bit under wholesale NADA. At the time wholesale NADA was 13% less than low retail. The thing is you cannot do that now as the economy is better today than when I shopped. I wish I had bought Netflix or Amazon stock in 2009, but did not. Water under the bridge.
You said you have looked at 100 motorhomes. How many have you driven? Narrow down to what you most likely want to buy and then leave no stone unturned in your search. I cannot tell where you are in the USA, so I have to be general. When I was looking I had ebay so they would send me emails when motorhomes of the brands I liked listed. I also looked through RVtrader online constantly. I would then check the Craig's lists from the areas that were kinda near me and you would expect RVs to be for sale in.

Some of the same rigs would post on RV trader on line and then show up on ebay. And then I would check Craig's list to see if the seller listed there too. When sellers listed on a couple of venues I would figure they were more motivated. I also looked frequently on PPL in Texas. They have a great web site. If we would not have found the motorhome we bought I was getting close to flying to TX to PPL. They are 1,500 miles away for us. IMHO PPL has really fair prices. The Country Coach factory sells CC's too. We bought from a consignment dealer out of State.

Prices do vary a bit by season. The season is heating up now. The thing is by continuing to look and not buy you are missing the fun of planning for the upcoming season as i am doing now. Spend lots of time finding the right coach for your family and it's needs and less on hammering down a rock bottom price. What counts most is that you get the right rig. A few bucks is not worth putting off missing this season. Life is short and from the look of things prices are creeping up a bit as the economy improves.

If I can be of any help at all pm me. PS I bought the RVCG disk with thousands of used motorhomes on it to quick checks CCC's and such when I drove out to look. I used to take a laptop with me. I am glad I got a CC.
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Heisenberg - The key is finding a CC with all of those features WORKING. In my opinion NADA is mostly useful with later year coaches. If you are buying a 5 year old coach NADA is a good baseline, but a 10 year + motorhome NADA is far less accurate.

With 10 year + coaches condition is more important than year or miles. Again, in my opinion. If the NADA suggests you can find a coach with all that you list at 15,000 I believe that would be an incorrect statement unless you are very very lucky.
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