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Old 08-05-2018, 04:57 AM   #1
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House Batteries not charging while driving.

I’m missing something. We have a Trace RV2012 and a RC7-GS remote module. The house batteries are not being charged with the engine’s alternator while we are under way. It used to...but I must have switched it off?

I’ve read both manuals and can’t find the setting if there is one.

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Old 08-05-2018, 06:06 AM   #2
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You didn't switch it off, that functionality is not in the inverter/charger, it is in your battery control center and more than likely a bad fuse or solenoid switch. Do you have a battery boost switch that allows you to help start the coach with the house batteries? Do you hear a clunk when you press it. That is generally the same solenoid switch.

However, not being familiar with your coach, I will wait for someone who has one to respond.

But put down the trace manuals and look for a BCC, or something from Intellitec, RV Custom Products, Precision Circuits...etc.
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Time to test your boost solenoid. The boost connects the two system batteries together and is what is used to charge your house batteries going down the road. Normally, an oil pressure switch closes at 4 or 5 psi and activates the solenoid. The switch works by grounding one side of the coil terminals. The other coil terminal is hot all the time. Your boost switch does the same.

Locate the solenoid and with the engine off have someone toggle the boost switch and listen to hear if if clicks. If no click, then use a jumper and jump the non-12 volt side of the coil to ground. If it doesn't click it is probably a bad solenoid. If it clicks, then measure the voltage across the large terminals on the solenoid. One side is connected to the house batteries the other to the chassis batteries. If the solenoid is clicking with either the boost switch or the ground wire jumper and the voltage is zero, or very close to zero, then the oil pressure switch is probably bad. If the voltage is not equal then the solenoid is bad.

You can charge the house batteries when driving by connecting the positive side of house and chassis batteries with a heavy jumper. When mhy boost solenoid failed, I connected the batteries together through a heavy duty battery cut off switch so I could easily disconnect the batteries when parked and connected to shore power.

If it turns out to be the oil pressure switch you can just leave the boost switch on while driving. This switch is usually a momentary switch and you will have to find a way to block it on.

BTW. Post your coach year and model when asking questions. Just in case your question is specific to your model coach.
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Time to test your boost solenoid. The boost connects the two system batteries together and is what is used to charge your house batteries going down the road. Normally, an oil pressure switch closes at 4 or 5 psi and activates the solenoid. The switch works by grounding one side of the coil terminals. The other coil terminal is hot all the time. Your boost switch does the same.

BTW. Post your coach year and model when asking questions. Just in case your question is specific to your model coach.
Thanks for this suggestion and detailed instructions! Very helpful! I’ll first set out trying to find the solenoid! Hope it is in the chassi battery bay...seems likely.

Oh, I guess I need to revamp my signature block to include Country Coach! SOrry. Again, thanks!
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You didn't switch it off, that functionality is not in the inverter/charger, it is in your battery control center and more than likely a bad fuse or solenoid switch. Do you have a battery boost switch that allows you to help start the coach with the house batteries? Do you hear a clunk when you press it. That is generally the same solenoid switch.

However, not being familiar with your coach, I will wait for someone who has one to respond.

But put down the trace manuals and look for a BCC, or something from Intellitec, RV Custom Products, Precision Circuits...etc.
Scott, Thanks for that help! I would not have known that. I’ll start looking for the solenoid switch. Maybe it is in the bay with the chassi batteries? The house batteries are 15’ forward in another bay!
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Be sure to test the solenoid with a multimeter as mentioned by phays. I’ve had two failed solenoids that we’re still making the clunking sounds but not working. With the blessing of CC I replaced all of mine with 200 amp continuous duty solenoids and also replaced the boost switch in the console with a toggle instead of a momentary switch. In my case I did it so I could just run the generator and flip with switch in case of an alternator failure. This has come in very handy on two separate occasions where my alternator failed.
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I recently replaced mine with this one - although the same size, it's rated higher and hopefully will last a long time. So far so good!
Power Relay battery Isolator 500 Amp... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I5Q7846?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
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I would suspect the battery isolator is more likely to be the problem than your boost solenoid/s.
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I found the wire had fallen off the oil pressure switch under the coach. My guess is it got hit by something while driving, but reattached the wire and no problems in 3 years so far. Safe travels.

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We had same issue and sometimes the boost button wouldn't work. So I replaced the solenoid first and it worked again sometimes, intermittently that is. Kind of what it was doing before although better. Then I had an oil leak from one of the sending units, a three wire sender on the passenger side of the block. I ordered the sender and replaced and bing bang booom, she is fixed. I did that last summer and she has been fine since. It's nice now when we have a crock pot going in the sink while traveling I am assured that my house batteries are being charged and my crock pot is singing along with us. Ha.
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[QUOTE=Gatesway;4330444]I’m missing something. We have a Trace RV2012 and a RC7-GS remote module. The house batteries are not being charged with the engine’s alternator while we are under way. It used to...but I must have switched it off?

I’ve read both manuals and can’t find the setting if there is one.

Thanks![/QUOTE

The solenoid on the 2000 Intrigue is located above the chassis battery inside the compartment with the inverter. I have replaced that one 3 times in the last 18 1/2 years and that has fixed the same problem you are having.

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I recently replaced mine with this one - although the same size, it's rated higher and hopefully will last a long time. So far so good!
Power Relay battery Isolator 500 Amp... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I5Q7846?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Does it bolt on the same as the OEM Eaton 200amp solenoid? That is a great find! Thanks for sharing. There are good things about the internet. Not sure they outweigh the evil.
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I found the wire had fallen off the oil pressure switch under the coach. My guess is it got hit by something while driving, but reattached the wire and no problems in 3 years so far. Safe travels.

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Jeff, Where would I find the oil pressure switch?

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The oil pressure switch is on passenger side of block and I want to say towards the transmission. Our had three wires with quick push in connectors so you can easily disconnect wires and unscrew the sensor. I may have the part number at my shop or in rv. If you search this under country coach section you should get our thread on this and part number too. It may be under Cummins section also.
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