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Old 07-11-2015, 07:58 AM   #15
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We thought that was the entry.. %!!!

Set snap traps and got another one yesterday.

Today started working on the water manifolds in the kitchen area and when we pulled out the low point drains we had to get serious with a screwdriver and camera and noticed large gap where the water lines come in.

The water tank is down the center between the frame rails inside an insulated wood box then it has a 4 inch dryer duct from there to the entry point that is above the fuel tank also between the frame rails.

The hole in the floor looks like it was square instead of round but hard to tell.

We could get the bore camera down real easy and it was into wide open space so we are guessing they are running across the fuel tank and coming in via that space.

Stuffed with steel wool for now and will look at blocking the area off above the tank after we finish the water lines.

Traps set and ready...

You're really going all out to plug up rodent access points in your coach! Good for you. In an earlier post, I suggested that you try to eliminate your rodent population by making a water bucket trap. If you can kill them before they infiltrate, you & your coach reap the benefits.

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Old 07-11-2015, 08:02 AM   #16
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I have heard of people renting or buying a smoke machine, available at party supply stores, and filling the coach with "smoke" then looking outside for leaks. The smoke is just vapor so won't hurt anything. Apparently even small cracks will become evident.
A mouse can slide thru an opening less than 1/4 inch.
Good luck fighting the mouse battle!

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Old 07-11-2015, 08:40 AM   #17
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Have tried bucket traps and they do get some but no good place for one near coach.

We are in the country and in drought so many many critters.

Brought home a "3 ft mouse catcher" that is deployed in the area where hay is stored and snap traps along walls inside garage and a few other places.

If we get the access controlled along with not leaving any snacks in the coach then we should be fine...we hope.
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Old 07-11-2015, 08:45 AM   #18
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Our LTD had the wire loop in the back. I always assumed it was a generic wiring harness that fit our 38' coach and would also stretch out to fit the 40' version. I believe they mostly went to rear lights.

That was our first thought...except rear lights are on passenger side if we recall.

The loop in ours is just a length of wire that ends with nothing connected and a handful of wires.

Have an original sales brochure and no option in it that would need anything there.

Someday maybe will measure voltages with someone flipping switches but that smacks of effort ;-)
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Old 07-12-2015, 09:21 PM   #19
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We finally got all of the plumbing connected, what a pain to use the crimper in places it does not fit.

Needless to say there is plenty of our DNA in assorted places now.

When we installed the faucets for the low point drains they came down on the outside of the frame rail between it and the Grey tank.

Will pack it with steel wool then make an extension for the spray foam to fill the area and for top coat spray on some undercoating as it seems they do not like the taste.

Will also work on the top if the fuel tank side but it is a tighter space.
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Recent update.

The canned foam is difficult to use like an undercoating and needs to be on top of something so it was a real pain to get it to stick.

Added wads of steel wool and that helped.

Note to all...
Gloves and old clothes ate a must as this stuff sticks to you much better than anything else.

Did not do inside rails as we assumed good for now.

Next day another critter inside!

Got camera up on top of fuel tank and found their path.

With long screwdrivers from top was able to stuff steel wool then slather rtv from top side then found an old patio mister kit that had perfect size hose to extend foam can to allow it to be snaked into the tiny spot at the end of the tunnel on the top of the frame rail.

Shot rest if first can over top of conduit from water tank filling area between full tank and floor then used second can to fill the bottom of the place where they went through ( could see the dew water lines just installed so was the hole in the heater vent pipe used for the water lines and fill tube)

Filled that thing full and there should be no easy path.

Nothing in the traps for a couple days so this weekend we will clean up the large ugly dripping foam parts and spray on a coat of rattle can bed liner that was on sale at the parts house.
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Old 07-21-2015, 09:28 PM   #21
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Reminds me of the movie Alien's line: 'Take off and nuke them from space. It's the only way to be sure!'

WHAT A PITA. Like pex?? Go figure...

Good tenacity on sticking with making it as rodent proof as possible. Once you've figured out the best way to protect the coach from rodents - we'll send you to DC and see if you can help protect DC too!

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Old 07-22-2015, 08:47 AM   #22
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Too many there to deal with...

It was just a letdown when we discovered the way the steering column lower entry and water access areas were constructed from the factory.

The column has adjustable lean on it but that is noting new and one would think there would have been an off the shelf sliding collar of some sort but no it had a real lousy design which is now gone and column stronger than before but may no longer be adjustable...maybe ...

Then given all the gas lines and drains have just right sized holes then sealed with real rtv one assumes all this way then the large gaping holes you can get 2 fingers through for the water utility was a bummer.

We checked the rest with the bore camera and found no gaps or holes from factory but did discover a gas line hole that a Po added to bring in the outside grill line inside to supply gas to the added catalytic heater so that was corrected.

Traps set with peanut butter so we wait and see while putting it back together.
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Photos and update.

None of the snap traps have tripped inside and one outside did trip but is missing so suspect a critter got an easy meal.

We used some hose from a patio mist cooling system to extend the reach of the foam in a can stuff and we foamed it up well with steel wool inside for bonus.

A few coats of spray in bed liner and we may be in good shape.

Note to all...
The spray in bed liner will create a thick goop that will drip on you if working under it so spray from an angle.

It also sprays far so you can spray above and behind things.

Forgot to get photo after bed liner but imagine everything black...
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