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Old 07-31-2010, 11:29 AM   #29
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Old 07-31-2010, 11:38 AM   #30
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New update.

I received a call from Dave Bretz's this morning.
Dave said that his talking with the tech, sales, and repairmen that this probably isn't a suitable coach for me as a woman and on that he is willing to refund my money.
He said to come in Monday afternoon and a check would be ready.

I am glad he took the time to put himself in my shoes and do what was right.

Thanks everyone for your help....I will work on getting more info under my belt and not make that mistake by giving them money so soon....

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Old 07-31-2010, 12:09 PM   #31
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Sometimes staff members read forums. This has got to be bad advertising for them. They look like a big outfit from their website.

I'm happy for you getting your money back. If they back out, I agree with Mike, go to small claims court. It is true used sales are as is but the sale was never completed since it would not run and they were unable to deliver.

Next time get eveything in writing....read everything...if they pressure sell you, walk out.
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Old 07-31-2010, 12:44 PM   #32
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Old 07-31-2010, 12:46 PM   #33
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Good for you!!

Originally Posted by Montana Rose View Post
New update.

I received a call from Dave Bretz's this morning.
Dave said that his talking with the tech, sales, and repairmen that this probably isn't a suitable coach for me as a woman and on that he is willing to refund my money.
Montana Rose,

I am glad that you stood up for yourself! I had a sick feeling when I first read your post but didn't want to assume you couldn't handle such an old coach. I know I couldn't. You were well within your rights to get your deposit back when they couldn't start it.

Next time when you find something you love go home and sleep on it for a weekend at the least. Do extensive research on the coach's reputation on the board/internet and insist that it be inspected by a mechanic before you agree to buy it. If they need a deposit put it on a credit card. A credit card would have no problem giving you your money back under the circumstances (the coach wouldn't start) or if you decide not to buy it because your mechanic turned up more problems than you wanted to deal with.

If they insist you sign something feel free to cross out anything you want and write in anything you like. You could always put in that the contract is cancel-able by you for any reason within 3 business days of your having the coach inspected by a mechanic the date of which is to be determined. You could also write in that they cannot charge the deposit to your credit card or cash your check until you accept the coach in writing after a mechanic's inspection. I'm not a lawyer but I don't sign anything I don't like the terms of.

I've been to Bretz's for supplies on the road and would have boycotted them if they didn't do the right thing but it sounds like they will. Let us know if they don't.

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A Happy Ending! There is a wealth of information on this forum regarding RVs. Although I'm a new member here I feel most members will be willing to offer you help while you shop.
I know of a few reputable dealers around Butte & Bozeman we've used for parts but we prefer to shop from a private party.
Thanks to Bretz for doing the right thing.
micd has great advice.
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In Ga there is a law that gives you three days to return any motor vehichle no matter what the reason
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Old 07-31-2010, 09:54 PM   #36
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Hi Micd,
Thanks for your insight as well, wow. There is a lot to what you shared....I have learned quite a bit from going through this and from you guys. You gave me a lot of information....that was awesome that you took the time to share as much as you did.
I am so amazed by this site and the help I have gotten.

Needless to say I am back to looking again....!

It was a valuable lesson....never had this kind of experience with a dealership....and coarse never got so close to buying an RV....HA

I still have it as my goal to find something.

I looked at two today that were owned by a private person, but they were too rough for me. I want to enjoy what I am in.
I can say that country coach I looked at has such a 50's retro look that it was really interesting to me, and that was surprising for me to think of getting something along those lines.

I had been looking at the Montana 5th Wheels, around the 30-32ft range, with a couple slide-outs. That has been where my brain has been for a couple of months.

I think I do need to be open to class A or a class C, and not limit myself should the right RV come along.

Thanks Micd!

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I agree, looks like it is going to be a happy ending....!

Hmmm, perhaps I need to take a drive over to Butte sometime and look around. If you have any place in mind let me know for sure! I would take a drive over and see what might pop-up.
Do you have any websites that I might consider?

I was thinking of going to Kalispell and check some places out, there if I find anything that takes me in that direction.

So any leads you have would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 07-31-2010, 10:08 PM   #38
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Tim & Paula,
You know, I'da thought most places they would have a policy like that, huh!
Especially, when your getting into something like this, I was a bit stumped by the way they did this....
Glad it looks like it will work out......will know for sure Monday when I pick up the deposit.
I have no hard feelings towards them....
Pretty good on forgiving......

So I'll move onto what else is out there.

Thanks guys,

Montana Rose

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Montana Rose, I am glad that you have been told you will be getting your money returned. I hope this goes smoothly. I am sure you have learned many things through this experience. Please take your time and do lots of research and even near the end at making a decision; bring the final choices to this forum. Good luck and stay firm at a full refund at least. You can write of the bank fees as tuition to the school of hard knocks.
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I did an on-line search of Butte, Bozeman and Helena RV Dealers and didn't find a lot used inventory in M/Hs but a lot of trailers.
You should first decide whether you want a M/H or 5th wheel. Both have their advantages/disadvantages and I'd probably spark a lot of controversy if I commented.
While and old style RV may be interesting you should be aware old appliances etc. may be lacking for parts requiring replacement instead or repair. Old technology is another issue.
If you plan on staying in any cold weather then insulation, double pane windows and a full heated basement should be a top priority in any RV.
CraigsList & RV Trader are good websites to shop. Crankyape sells repos and may not be convenient for you but like the other two will provide a lot of photos and info.
FWIW it took us 8 months and three states before we had our 'new to us' coach. Fortunately hours of internet research rewarded us with valuable info. Unfortunately I never found these RV forums until after our purchase.
Good Luck!
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It is good to hear that Bretz will refund your money, as any reputable company should under the circumstances. I do realize that they are in business to make money, but it should not be in such a situation as this. Once that RV would not start it should have been a no-deal situation. They will have plenty of time to get things fixed and sell it to someone that can handle it.

Keep us informed.

Good luck.

p.s., do a search for PPL Motorhomes, in Houston. It will give you some idea as to what is available in all realms of the RV world.
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Montana Rose, Your always going to wonder if you have made a correct choice. My first rv was a 1998 Winnebago Brave. It was a wonderful coach and for the price that I paid, I was able to learn the RV world w/o seriously damaging anything of great value. Chances are your getting a good coach. But, you should expect repairs simply because of the age. Also, how you plan to use the coach will determine if this is the right choice for you, I only planned Ohio trips since I am centrally located. I would probable not trust this unit on a long trip until you have had a few short one's under the belt. Relax and enjoy the experience, if you keep her welcome to the RV world.

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