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Old 04-09-2016, 05:32 PM   #1
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Just bought our new to us 2000 CC Allure. Very well maintained. Had to replace fuel lift pump last weekend $1600! Now no power up hill (15 mph MAX) tech says could be fuel injector now and that would be $5000!! Does this sound right? Brand new to all of this (including posting on this or any forum) Thank You
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:52 PM   #2
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Just bought our new to us 2000 CC Allure. Very well maintained. Had to replace fuel lift pump last weekend $1600! Now no power up hill (15 mph MAX) tech says could be fuel injector now and that would be $5000!! Does this sound right? Brand new to all of this (including posting on this or any forum) Thank You

Well, I paid $4,000 for lift pump and fuel injection pump in 2005 at Cummins Rocky Mountain. The rig was dead and towed to their lot. I learned later that I overpaid for the repair.

But......shop around.

Get a second opinion of the cause and fix.

There are fuel injection pump rebuilders, specialists, and rebuilt units available.

The major OEM repair shops are likely parts changers and like to use new OEM parts to avoid repair returns.

They will install parts on your dime until they find the one that solves your problem.
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:34 AM   #3
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Thank You deandec! we will take your advice and get a second opinion!
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Old 04-23-2016, 12:55 PM   #4
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Just bought our new to us 2000 CC Allure. Very well maintained. Had to replace fuel lift pump last weekend $1600! Now no power up hill (15 mph MAX) tech says could be fuel injector now and that would be $5000!! Does this sound right? Brand new to all of this (including posting on this or any forum) Thank You

Where are you located? In January Colton Truck Terminal RV repair replaced my lift pump for a lot less than that, I don't have the invoice in my hand but my memory tells me the cost for labor and a new lift pump was around $700. If you are in that area they may be able to have your Injection pump rebuilt for a lot less than $5000.
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Old 04-24-2016, 09:53 AM   #5
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Tee Cee - A couple of years ago when we had a big power drop it was from a turbo problem. And a year after that we had a charge air cooler go bad which dropped the boost pressure down. Check to see what air pressure boost you are getting. We are able to see the amount of pressure on our Silverleaf screen. You may not have that on your coach.

You can usually tell if your boost pressure is down if you get black exhaust. Low or no boost makes for a rich mixture. Could also be your boots on the intake pressure tube.
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Old 04-24-2016, 07:35 PM   #6
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Lift Pump, Injection Pump, Limp Mode and NOW COOLANT LEVEL SENSOR

I feel I may have hijacked this post (new to this and don't know how to move it) but wanted to thank all responders and update. Got additional opinions from various shops. Replaced lift pump, no more check or stop engine lights but now no power uphill. No black smoke or other indicators other than goes into "limp" mode on grades. Replaced coolant level sensor (used standard 4 pin Cummins part AND TOSSED OLD ONE DANG IT!) now ECM keeps giving "LOW COOLANT" code, cleared by shop but back on immediately when re-start engine. Shop thinks Cummins part is not recognized by ECM, thinks it is a "CHASSIS SPECIFIC" part and can't find part number. Either that or ECM is bad... No Silverleaf in our unit. Anyone had this issue? Winnie/CC computers down so can't get part number from them. Kevin Waite is checking into it for us tomorrow. MH has been in shop for a month on this so I'm gettin anxious!
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That's easy enough to fix, enjoy your own thread.

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I feel I may have hijacked this post (new to this and don't know how to move it) but wanted to thank all responders and update. Got additional opinions from various shops. Replaced lift pump, no more check or stop engine lights but now no power uphill. No black smoke or other indicators other than goes into "limp" mode on grades. Replaced coolant level sensor (used standard 4 pin Cummins part AND TOSSED OLD ONE DANG IT!) now ECM keeps giving "LOW COOLANT" code, cleared by shop but back on immediately when re-start engine. Shop thinks Cummins part is not recognized by ECM, thinks it is a "CHASSIS SPECIFIC" part and can't find part number. Either that or ECM is bad... No Silverleaf in our unit. Anyone had this issue? Winnie/CC computers down so can't get part number from them. Kevin Waite is checking into it for us tomorrow. MH has been in shop for a month on this so I'm gettin anxious!
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I feel I may have hijacked this post (new to this and don't know how to move it) but wanted to thank all responders and update. Got additional opinions from various shops. Replaced lift pump, no more check or stop engine lights but now no power uphill. No black smoke or other indicators other than goes into "limp" mode on grades. Replaced coolant level sensor (used standard 4 pin Cummins part AND TOSSED OLD ONE DANG IT!) now ECM keeps giving "LOW COOLANT" code, cleared by shop but back on immediately when re-start engine. Shop thinks Cummins part is not recognized by ECM, thinks it is a "CHASSIS SPECIFIC" part and can't find part number. Either that or ECM is bad... No Silverleaf in our unit. Anyone had this issue? Winnie/CC computers down so can't get part number from them. Kevin Waite is checking into it for us tomorrow. MH has been in shop for a month on this so I'm gettin anxious!
If Kevin doesn't have it, Colton Truck Terminal RV is another source for the coolant sensor and the air sensor.
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By reading your last post, I gather you did not contact Colton Truck Terminal. They are the best service facility near you. They are very honest and do excellent repair at a fair price. This is where we took our coach when we lived in Orange County.

The comment about the shop saying that the part is "chassis specific" tells me they don't know what they are talking about and have no idea as to what is wrong.

Stay away from the Cummins Coach Care facilities, thy are very expensive
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if your injection pump is the gremlin, there is a well-known injection pump builder in eugene, or - Oregon Fuel Injection. they rebuild all kind of ips from small like bosch for mercedes to large for cummins and cat, and anything in between. google and call them... (i have never used them just heard about them).
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It looks like you live in Orange County, CA., would highly recommend you go to Colton Truck Terminal. They are a very knowledgeable shop they will fix your problems for and honest price.
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