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Old 01-12-2014, 10:52 AM   #29
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My coach is a 2007 Magna, with the 600 ISX Cummins. I recently purchased this motorhome, and the previous owner agreed to pay to install the wet kit. He was very meticulous and had taken very good care of the coach, but was the second owner and had had the coach since 2010. His service records showed that the PTO had been serviced 4000 miles prior.

This is our maiden voyage south from Oregon, and we stopped at Oregon Motorcoach Service outside of Eugene to have a few items attended to. They said that with this particular model, the wet kit was not an option due to tight clearances, but pointed out that the spline had been recently serviced. The hydraulic pump on this coach was not the more common one, but an Eaton. Without looking underneath, the service advisor I was speaking with was also under the impression that this pump drove both the cooling and power steering. Now I am glad that he was wrong.

Tomorrow when I speak with the technician, I will have him explore options for keeping the new spline and pump lubricated. As for why mine failed, I would have to guess that it had not been serviced prior to 34000 miles. When they separate and lubricate/grease the spline, I am wondering if they actually inspect them, or if they merely get a grease gun against the shaft and shoot grease in. Had they actually inspected this unit when it was greased 4000 miles ago, I am sure it would have been discovered that the unit was badly worn.

I will share all the final findings later in the week.

John.
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Old 01-12-2014, 11:52 AM   #30
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I just went back and reviewed maintenance records. The PTO/Pump splines were inspected and greased, and looked fine 4000 miles ago!

Never know when this baby might fail.

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Old 01-12-2014, 07:26 PM   #31
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I just went back and reviewed maintenance records. The PTO/Pump splines were inspected and greased, and looked fine 4000 miles ago!

Never know when this baby might fail.

John.
I checked my PTO early on, around 7 or 8k miles and it had evidence of grease, so CC must have greased it when installing, since I have inspected it at each oil change, only takes about 15min., it has visually looked the same the last 3 times.. I do the inspections myself.
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I'm new to the CC PTO problem, so I have a question. This hyd pump, is it located on the side of the transmission? That's where it is on the CC Magna 1998 we are buying. It has a Detroit Diesel with a 3060 World trans.
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I checked my PTO early on, around 7 or 8k miles and it had evidence of grease, so CC must have greased it when installing, since I have inspected it at each oil change, only takes about 15min., it has visually looked the same the last 3 times.. I do the inspections myself.
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Hi Marvin:

After reading this I checked my owner's manual and there is no mention of this inspection or the grease requirement. Crawling around under there I see no evidence of anything that might be called a "wet kit" but to be honest I am not sure I would know what one looks like.

All this said, how do you inspect/grease these? What should I look for on the transmission? Do I need to remove the entire pump? Advice and info greatly appreciated good Sir.

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Old 02-05-2014, 10:35 PM   #34
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Very good PTO information available in this PDF file. PTO 101 PDF

JDRV Services is very helpful with PTO parts or service.
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