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Old 09-12-2014, 12:06 PM   #1
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Radiator r&r??

From time to time I read about CCs having to get their radiators replaced, and that can't be fun or cheap, so....

Is there a link showing what models and/or years that these faulty radiators were used?

What is the symptom and is there a particular place to inspect in order to notice the problem(s)?

Better yet, is there a way to tell whether a CC has the potentially defective unit, or not?

Finally, is this just a CC problem, or do other manufacturers have it, too?

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Old 09-12-2014, 06:37 PM   #2
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The leaky radiators had aluminum cores and apparently CC had used those radiators for several model years. I know my previous coach, a Winnebago Journey, had an aluminum core radiator and it was not leaking when I traded it at 11 years of age. I do know of a Winnebago Vectra with a similar radiator that leaked. I know I see plenty of rear radiator DP's (new models) with what appear to be radiators with aluminum cores. I believe the particular radiator manufacturer used by CC had some issues.

R & R is expensive and not a task I would take on myself. On my coach, the radiator, CAC and transmission oil cooler are all bolted together. I worked summers in my father's radiator shop in the late 1960's and pulled many radiators. However, at this point in my life, I'd be writing someone else a check to do the work. Too old and fat to crawl under the beast now.

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Old 09-12-2014, 09:23 PM   #3
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Many more manufacturers besides CC were impacted by this radiator supplier. CC is for sure not the largest builder impacted!

If you can attach a magnet to the side caps, and or if you see bolts where the side caps attach, then you have a non problem radiator. (Going from memory on this one, but that is how I think it was explained to me...).

Top three things to be aware of, of which the third is mostly cosmetic:

1) The radiator problem mentioned. Coach specific, as CC had other radiator suppliers and it was the luck of the draw as to which one went into which unit. (For sure on 2004 Allure models with ISL's. Can't say this is for sure on others and all years.)

2) Dry Power Take Offs (PTO's). Requires a wet kit mod, or plenty of maintenance and inspection to grease gears if not changing over with the wet kit.

3) Micro Checking - As I recall, the higher end Magna's and above were not impacted(?) as they used a different supplier of glass for the sidewall construction. Allures, Inspires and Tributes are the models that may be impacted. Usually more of a problem with darker paints.

I'll also add that when looking at other models, learn the specifics of what gremlins may be involved with them. As most models have a areas that may need addressing. Understanding what to look for, and if not already taken care of by a previous owner - negotiate accordingly.

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Old 09-12-2014, 09:33 PM   #4
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MY Country Coach had the radiator replace just before we got it by Quinn Cat in Calif. at a cost of $5400 parts and labor. It started leaking around 15000mi. It's kind of the luck of the draw if you get a good one.
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Similar to 2 stroker,
My 05 Inspire started leaking right after we bought it used in 2007 with approx. 20,000 miles and I contacted my sales person who contacted Country Coach and they stood behind it. Had a Cat dealer do the swap out per CC's recommendation. They had to wait to get a lift that would lift the coach. Don't remember the total as I didn't pay it. It was well over the normal warranty but they knew it was an issue and even though they were struggling at that time they took care of it.
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