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Old 07-26-2014, 07:52 PM   #1
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Tecma Toilet Question

Just dumped and flushed the BW tank and the See Level system says it is empty but the indicator on the flush pad is yellow. I reset the circuit breaker for the toilet in the battery bay but the light remains yellow.

The tech at CC did work in that wet bay fixing a leaking fitting on my AH heat exchanger but the light was green when we dumped the tanks before traveling.

Any secrets anyone can share?
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Sometimes T-paper or other substance can stick to the inside surface and give false readings. Look up the GEO method of cleaning/flushing the tank. Might take a couple of times but has worked for us.
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Just dumped and flushed the BW tank and the See Level system says it is empty but the indicator on the flush pad is yellow. I reset the circuit breaker for the toilet in the battery bay but the light remains yellow.

The tech at CC did work in that wet bay fixing a leaking fitting on my AH heat exchanger but the light was green when we dumped the tanks before traveling.

Any secrets anyone can share?
I had that problem, what I did was mix white vinegar, liquid d/w soap with about 3 to 5 gal water on days that I traveled, that will clean the excess stuff out, some times I use a full gal of vinegar, depending on how far I am traveling. happy travels
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Just dumped and flushed the BW tank and the See Level system says it is empty but the indicator on the flush pad is yellow. I reset the circuit breaker for the toilet in the battery bay but the light remains yellow.

The tech at CC did work in that wet bay fixing a leaking fitting on my AH heat exchanger but the light was green when we dumped the tanks before traveling.

Any secrets anyone can share?
Just going through the same experience, but it has been several months. The light goes yellow at between 20-30% as read on the seelevel compared to 48% over the last 2.5 years of ownership. Tried all the cleaning options but still not changing. Also the seelevel long sensor is within an inch of the Tecma. I have ordered a new yellow sensor, they come in pairs with the red but I was able to find someone to sell me the yellow only. I am just awaiting it to arrive from the US. Will try to remember to update this thread when I do the change!
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Just going through the same experience, but it has been several months. The light goes yellow at between 20-30% as read on the seelevel compared to 48% over the last 2.5 years of ownership. Tried all the cleaning options but still not changing. Also the seelevel long sensor is within an inch of the Tecma. I have ordered a new yellow sensor, they come in pairs with the red but I was able to find someone to sell me the yellow only. I am just awaiting it to arrive from the US. Will try to remember to update this thread when I do the change!
If your's is like mine, I wonder if you can get to the sensor without removing that panel in the wet bay. I could only see my black tank sensors when I had that entire stainless panel removed to replace my dump valves. That was a real PITA. Maybe with some contortion, the sensors can be reached without removing the panel.
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If your's is like mine, I wonder if you can get to the sensor without removing that panel in the wet bay. I could only see my black tank sensors when I had that entire stainless panel removed to replace my dump valves. That was a real PITA. Maybe with some contortion, the sensors can be reached without removing the panel.
It took several rinses to get the light to work correctly the first time, after that I usually rinse about once a month when I am "traveling",no more problems, no smell either.... to start you may want to use a full gal of white vinegar and a cup of liquid dish soap to about 5 gal of clean water, I drain that when I hookup again, you will be amazed at how much stuff comes out. I have a clear sleeve so I can monitor, works fo me...
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It took several rinses to get the light to work correctly the first time, after that I usually rinse about once a month when I am "traveling",no more problems, no smell either.... to start you may want to use a full gal of white vinegar and a cup of liquid dish soap to about 5 gal of clean water, I drain that when I hookup again, you will be amazed at how much stuff comes out. I have a clear sleeve so I can monitor, works fo me...
I will try the white vinegar. I used dish soap and bath bead powder and drove from Newport to Portland and no change.
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UPDATE: A gallon of white vinegar, 1/2 cup of dishwashing detergent and a 300 mile drive on I84 solved the problem .
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Try slapping the tank.. Tecma uses a pressure sensor, not as likely to "False" as the normal Pin type sensor, but it can happen.. It may just be stuck.

Thankfully yellow is not all that bad. Red would be bad.

Wish they had installed those sensors on mine.
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I tried intense cleaning options but no sustained improvement. Replaced the mid sensor, all fine now. Consistently going orange at a seelevel percentage of 60%.
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From your last post. Did you add any water to the 1 gal vinegar and soap?
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From your last post. Did you add any water to the 1 gal vinegar and soap?
I just poured the gallon of vinegar in the toilet and did two of the big flushes. It took care of it.

FYI, we just finished up a full week at a family members house with no water/sewer. We did use their facilities a few times but not many. With our conservative 'flushing strategies,' we left there this AM at 70% full. We were kind of proud of that.
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If you can find a Valterra "Master Blaster" Tank cleaning wand, or a photo of it,,, (I do not actually recommend the item) look at the design and then home brew

You will need

A 1/2 inch PVC pipe
A 1/2 inch PVC pipe cap
PVC pip glue
A Garden hose to 1/2 inch PVC pipe adapter
A vacuum breaker (Garden hose type
A garden hose cut off valve
A drill in the quarter inch range.

A 90 degree garden hose elbow is optional

Putting it all together

Clue cap on end of pipe, DRILL hole (Mine is I think 7/32nd of an inch, about 1/4 (8/32nd is a quarter) inch.. First drill I grabbed was how I selected it) in the side of the pipe cap and pipe in line with either the printed line or the blue line on the PVC pipe

On the other end put the hose adapter, vacuum breaker and shut off valve.

Instant home made Master Blaster without the break off nose.

Aim for the sensors.


The problem...

There are basically 3 types of sensors.. SEE LEVEL uses the best ones
Tecma, Uses pneumatic (pressure) sensors, these are #2 on the list but they can be faulted

Most RVs come with the basic "nail" sensor, which is ... not good at all.

Two possible issues.

Something has jammed the sensor, if you get lucky and bulls eye it with the blaster it might free it

Wiring to sensor has been.. Messed up.
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If you can find a Valterra "Master Blaster" Tank cleaning wand, or a photo of it,,, (I do not actually recommend the item) look at the design and then home brew

You will need

A 1/2 inch PVC pipe
A 1/2 inch PVC pipe cap
PVC pip glue
A Garden hose to 1/2 inch PVC pipe adapter
A vacuum breaker (Garden hose type
A garden hose cut off valve
A drill in the quarter inch range.

A 90 degree garden hose elbow is optional

Putting it all together

Clue cap on end of pipe, DRILL hole (Mine is I think 7/32nd of an inch, about 1/4 (8/32nd is a quarter) inch.. First drill I grabbed was how I selected it) in the side of the pipe cap and pipe in line with either the printed line or the blue line on the PVC pipe

On the other end put the hose adapter, vacuum breaker and shut off valve.

Instant home made Master Blaster without the break off nose.

Aim for the sensors.


The problem...

There are basically 3 types of sensors.. SEE LEVEL uses the best ones
Tecma, Uses pneumatic (pressure) sensors, these are #2 on the list but they can be faulted

Most RVs come with the basic "nail" sensor, which is ... not good at all.

Two possible issues.

Something has jammed the sensor, if you get lucky and bulls eye it with the blaster it might free it

Wiring to sensor has been.. Messed up.
Struggling to follow your post. The seelevel and the Tecma sensors on my 08 Allure are external electronic versions. Just fixed with some kind of double sided tape. Both the same as far as I can see. As to tank cleaning my CC Allure came with built in tank flushing.
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