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Old 01-11-2016, 05:19 PM   #15
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I also have a 2004 CC Intrigue Ovation, cherry interior and and every option but the heated floor (darn it). Anyway, Like others, we have looked to purchase new - to no avail. The new workmanship is not anywhere near what we have. The glitz does not impress us, besides, we do not know anyone who lives like that in their S&B. It will be 30 degrees here in Florida tonight and I will sit comfortably in my shirt sleeves while the great insulation and HydroHot keep us nice and toasty. Yes, we have upgraded the electronics and the fridge as well as other items over the years. As it stand now I feel like I could put another large chunk of money into refurbishing, redecorating and repainting and still have a better coach than most of the new ones on the market. Maybe the new Winnie Country Coaches will give me something to look at?

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Old 01-12-2016, 08:47 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Larry Young View Post
I also have a 2004 Country Coach Allure, when I look at new coaches which I often do I find that they do not seem to be built with the same quality as my coach.
That being said I have been looking at 2006/2007 Country Coach Magna's which I like very much. The question I have concerns the engines the Cat C-13 seems to be very reliable from what I have herd. However I have herd a number of people state that the Cummins ISX 600 is trouble. For those of you that have this engine what is your experience, if considering this model should I stay away from the Cummins, and look for one with the Cat.
If you get a 2006 or 2007 or some of the 2008 with Pre-2007 Emission, the 600 ISX is a Gold. However, the first generation of Cummins 600 and 650 ISXs were very problematic. If you search on irv2, Mr_D's problems with his Cummins 650 ISX, you will find out more. I also have this said by a friend who owns a fleet of trucks that he had 10 to 12 of his trucks with post 2007 Emission, were in the shop for virtually the same engine issue at the same time. Obviously, they have corrected the issues and the new ones do not have those problems.
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Old 01-16-2016, 11:36 PM   #17
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Interesting thread!
Having owned Newmars for years and looking at the various units over the years I can honestly say the quality of build in the CC's is much better than even the King Aire although I looked seriously at a 2007 London Aire but they sold it before I could get the DW interested in it.
We belonged to a private club in OR that my parents helped found. It was a mixed group of TT's, 5th wheels and MH's. Only 12 MH's, one Prevost, one Foretravel (my parents) and six Newmars. The rest were various SOB's so we were well versed on the quality.
Wish we had looked at CC's sooner!
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Those of you that may have read a few of my '! Short ! threads of the past, know that when we came up with our short list, we choose pre-ULSD designed engine coaches. And that I'm a believer in 'Dropping years to remain within budget, and buy the best quality coach that you can.' That I believe 'Quality lasts.' and that 'Quality coaches provide good foundations to modify to your specific interior likes.'.

Our list included:
Foretravel (U295/U320)
Beaver (Patriot Thunder/Marquis)
Monaco (Executive/Signature and some Dynasty (BIB BLOCK ones)
Travel Supreme
Country Coach

IMO, Wanderlodge, Beaver (Before they became Monaco'ized.), and Foretravel were the coaches that closely matched the quality of materials and attention to detail of the CC's during assembly. The Executive/Signature were great coaches, and good wood working too. But down under the cabinets, and following wire harnesses, etc. - you could see just a bit less attention to detail. Tavel Supreme's/Alpine's also had good wood, but the finishing did not seem to be as good as the CC's.

For sure all subjective to years, and opinions. None of these would have been on our short list, if they were not fine coaches. So sure not trying to kick SOB's in general, especially these that are a cut above the masses!

And CC too seemed to become 'National'ized' in their later years. New masters, with new price profit targets. Still great coaches, and would have been proud to own one. But, we (I) wanted the pre heavy changes to smogged down engines. Thus our Pre-ULSD hunt!

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