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Old 08-13-2013, 11:01 PM   #1
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Wet/dry PTO

Thanks to this site I became aware of the dry PTO problem with so many Country Coaches. Recently took delivery of a "new to us" 2005 Allure and as soon as I got it I crawled underneath and discovered the retro-fit had never been done. It's real easy to tell, just count the hoses to the PTO. One bad, two good! I ordered the retrofit myself online and saved a lot of money. Some places wanted as much as $525 but found it for $400. Funny, only in the RV business can a company like Chelsea-Parker design something that fails within 25k miles and then sell a retro fit for $500! Anyway, a local truck shop did the work and the old shaft was close to failure with a lot of play. They told me several stories of catastrophic failures that they have seen in several vehicles. If you haven't taken care of it, i recommend like so many on this site to take care of it now. If you order it yourself it will cost you about $700 to get and have it installed. If it breaks, big $!
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Had mine done when I got my coach in January before I picked it up. Good that you got it before the big $$$$ Keep an eye on the radiator another weak spot
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:09 AM   #3
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Had that done before picking it up!
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We checked the VIN on my Magna. CC said it had been done during the recall. Glad for that. Everyone should check.
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Thanks to this site I became aware of the dry PTO problem with so many Country Coaches. Recently took delivery of a "new to us" 2005 Allure and as soon as I got it I crawled underneath and discovered the retro-fit had never been done. It's real easy to tell, just count the hoses to the PTO. One bad, two good! I ordered the retrofit myself online and saved a lot of money. Some places wanted as much as $525 but found it for $400. Funny, only in the RV business can a company like Chelsea-Parker design something that fails within 25k miles and then sell a retro fit for $500! Anyway, a local truck shop did the work and the old shaft was close to failure with a lot of play. They told me several stories of catastrophic failures that they have seen in several vehicles. If you haven't taken care of it, i recommend like so many on this site to take care of it now. If you order it yourself it will cost you about $700 to get and have it installed. If it breaks, big $!
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What does PTO stand for?
Power Take Off?
In my world PTO has always meant "power take off".
I have one on my garden tractor and many trucks I've driven had them for the dump box.
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Yes, it is power take off. Country Coach used this PTO to mount the hydraulic pump, which powers the cooling fans and power steering. No fun with a 36,000 pound motorhome with no power steering--I've been there, but not due to the PTO-issue. We had a hydraulic hose burst. Of course, cooling fan issue make the lack of power steering quickly a moot point, since the engine will overheat pretty quickly!
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Yes, it is power take off. Country Coach used this PTO to mount the hydraulic pump, which powers the cooling fans and power steering. No fun with a 36,000 pound motorhome with no power steering--I've been there, but not due to the PTO-issue. We had a hydraulic hose burst. Of course, cooling fan issue make the lack of power steering quickly a moot point, since the engine will overheat pretty quickly!
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Fortunately, previous owner had the wet pto fix done on our Allure. I am curious though why CC uses a transmission mounted PTO to drive the hydraulic pump? Is this more efficient than other methods? Do other brands of coaches with side radiators use engine mounted, belt-driven hydraulic pumps? Does the PTO pump use less engine horsepower than a belt-driven pump?
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Here is a website for JD's service. JD was a Country Coach tech that started his own business after the BK. His site has some good info on the wet PTO's You can get a wet kit here cheaper than anywhere else. JOHN DAVIS RV SERVICES INC.

He also has a good supply of parts for our CC's
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I have the dry PTO but have the whole assembly pulled each year, checked and regreased when I have the full service. Wet pto's can fail too.

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Can anyone point me to a shop in Elkhart, IN who can install the wet kit?

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Hey knobby, any good heavy duty mechanic can do it. I just searched the web for the part. Ordered it. Printed this page http://www.jdrv1.com/sitebuildercont...s/pto-101a.pdf

Took it to a truck mechanic with the pictures and he did it in a couple of hours. Really pretty simple. The page I listed give the part numbers and everything
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Red.. Thanks for the info. I'll download the page.
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