07 Safari Simba Diesel Pusher?

[supercub]

Looking for Pros and Cons on this unit? Appreciate your input.

[The Danes Are Coming]

I have no experience with the Safari specifically but I would say that any/all Monaco product would have to be cheap. The reason for this is that all Monaco products have dropped in price since Monaco went out of business.

I am in Fort Myers in Florida at the moment and day before yesterday I went "shopping" at a local dealer. On his forecourt is a couple of brand new Monaco products that he is trying to sell quickly since they don't want any association with Monaco anymore. Apparently they lost more than $1 million due to Monaco's bankruptcy.

New 40 foot 2008 Monaco Diplomat. The dealer said that they probably would let it go for $170.000.

[WheelCaptain]

We bought the Safari Simba in late 2006. It is very similar to the other Monaco models of the same price range. We love it. At the time the CAT diesel was ahead of the curve for meeting requirements and has been very reliable. The build was good and the later model has the stronger trailing arms. We only had the usual shake down issues and have not had any problems. We get 9 to 11 miles to the gallon depending on grade, speed, etc. We have the 8K genset and it is very reliable. Feel free to ask any other questions.

[soberjoe]

Ours is great. We had to deal with the trailing arm issue of course. Other then the normal minor things when it was new it's a good unit. We love the four slide outs, really opens it up inside.

[Jim Stewart]

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Originally Posted by WheelCaptain We bought the Safari Simba in late 2006. It is very similar to the other Monaco models of the same price range. We love it. At the time the CAT diesel was ahead of the curve for meeting requirements and has been very reliable. The build was good and the later model has the stronger trailing arms. We only had the usual shake down issues and have not had any problems. We get 9 to 11 miles to the gallon depending on grade, speed, etc. We have the 8K genset and it is very reliable. Feel free to ask any other questions.

Gary, you may want to keep a close eye on your trailing arms. Your year of Simba came with the Monaco recall upgrade arms. Those arms are also currently failing on all models with the RR4R Chassis. If you called or were told they were the stronger arms, in fact they are stronger that the ones pre-recall, however they are not the newest versions by Monaco and Source Engineering. If you were to call Monaco tech support, they will confirm what I am telling you. They are gun shy, so you have to ask the right questions.

Please accept this with the intent it was written. I am not trying to anger anyone or scare you, however, the arms you have could be dangerous and when they crack and they will, it can be far more expensive to repair than post catastrophic failure.

[beaverjim]

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Originally Posted by The Danes Are Coming I have no experience with the Safari specifically but I would say that any/all Monaco product would have to be cheap. The reason for this is that all Monaco products have dropped in price since Monaco went out of business. I am in Fort Myers in Florida at the moment and day before yesterday I went "shopping" at a local dealer. On his forecourt is a couple of brand new Monaco products that he is trying to sell quickly since they don't want any association with Monaco anymore. Apparently they lost more than $1 million due to Monaco's bankruptcy. New 40 foot 2008 Monaco Diplomat. The dealer said that they probably would let it go for $170.000.

dane, that apears to be about 36% off. don't take this wrong but that's not a super cheap deal on a 08 coach new or used. most any 08 whatever brand would go for that or less. just my opinion. jim

[The Danes Are Coming]

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Originally Posted by beaverjim dane, that apears to be about 36% off. don't take this wrong but that's not a super cheap deal on a 08 coach new or used. most any 08 whatever brand would go for that or less. just my opinion. jim

No offence taken. I will race you

Find me a substantially better deal on the Internet. If you do I will try and beat you.

Let the games begin !

[Jim Stewart]

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Originally Posted by beaverjim dane, that apears to be about 36% off. don't take this wrong but that's not a super cheap deal on a 08 coach new or used. most any 08 whatever brand would go for that or less. just my opinion. jim

Jim,

A new 2008 Monaco with a sticker of $269K should sell for about $135K (50% discount). Maybe with an aftermarket warranty that includes the house portion, $140K. It would not come with a warranty on the Coach, but would have a warranty on many of the components including the engine and transmission. It also would not qualify for any factory paid recalls.

These low prices have hurt the value of used Monaco Products because of the sales of stagnant inventory at reduced prices due to lack of warranty! In addition, it is a 2008 when they are now delivering 2011s.

[Jim Stewart]

Here's one at Camping world with similar sticker that they are asking $161K, that's before negotiating!

New 2008 Monaco Diplomat 40PDQ Class A - Diesel For Sale - Camping World RV Sales - Springfield

[The Texan]

Here is a link to more than one make of new 2008 DPs for sale at one west coast dealer Inventory. Here is another west coast dealer that has left over 2008 & 2009 Monaco products at a better price than your Ft Meyers dealer. DeMartini R.V. Sales, Recreational vehicles (RVs), Holiday* Rambler** Motorhomes, Monaco Motorhomes, Monaco Coach Corporation, Endeavor, Scepter,** Imperial, Dynasty,* Windsor, Camelot, Navigator, Vacationer, Admiral,** Ambassador, trailers, campers, . That $170K should buy a left over 2009 or 2010, not a 2008.

[azloafer]

This is not a Diplomat but it gives you an idea of used pricing. This coach has less than 5,000 miles on it! I have nothing to gain if you bought from this firm except that I bought mine there, but I wanted you to see how quality coaches in that year are priced. This is just a sample picked at random. Joe



2008 Gulf Stream Crescendo 8386 3 SLDS
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(Click picture to enlarge) Stock #: 9904
Year: 2008
Brand: Gulf Stream
Model: Crescendo 8386 3 SLDS
Retail Price: $158,870.00
Pedata Direct: $124,995.00 Length: 38' 0"
RV Type: Diesel Pusher
Description:
This 2008 Gulf Stream Crescendo is a beautiful diesel pusher with some wonderful features for your next adventure. Features include: rear facing living room, TV, 5.1 surround sound, fantastic fan with rain sensor, central vacuum, pull out pantry, solid surface counter tops, convection microwave oven, icemaker, exterior refrigerator, smart wheel, sleep number bed, encased patio awning, built in washer/dryer, and full pass through storage with slide out tray. For complete information call us toll free at 888-545-8314.

[beaverjim]

this game is fun! i don't even need to do any work. lol! jim

[The Danes Are Coming]

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Originally Posted by Jim Stewart Here's one at Camping world with similar sticker that they are asking $161K, that's before negotiating! New 2008 Monaco Diplomat 40PDQ Class A - Diesel For Sale - Camping World RV Sales - Springfield

Well done Jim. You are in the lead (for now)