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03-24-2019, 10:55 PM
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09 Knight Kongsberg Pedal Sensor Failure
While heading to Williamsburg, VA (Sept 2018) and coming to an I95 traffic jam just outside Fredericksburg, as traffic started to move my Kongsberg adjustable pedal assembly pedal sensor decided to not allow the signal to the engine to move me down the road. After reading the 06-05-2012 08 Camelot post and doing research along with my mechanic back in Oregon and another Monaco group I belong to, I found 3 New Old Stock on eBay. I ordered two of them as they were cheap compared to the dealer in Mentor,Ohio for Kongsberg ($500+ and 13 weeks delivery for pedal and sensor). What I bought on eBay was the pedal, sensor, pedal bracket and drive motor with cable to connect to the brake side for $260 ea, normally $900 ea. Unbolted pedal and sensor and bolted new old one up and drove away. The 2012 post stated they were receiving new Hall Effect sensor which does not fail etc. Well mine was the Hall Effect sensor and ......! So for anyone of you out there who have the Adjustable Pedal Assembly beware. The pedal with sensor as I stated above is part# 53010N0-10SD-00.
I did the cleaning, unplugging and re plugging and it did get me another 300 mi and died 3 miles short of my destination.
PS I have a spare!!
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03-25-2019, 07:28 AM
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Thanks for the info - since you are using that part it must be correct for your 2009.
But it was also said that the 2003-2009 Monacos used the "Telefex model 67076-001" accelerator pedal.
I don't know what the difference is. Does the Kong assembly have the same plug style (3-pin) as shown in the link below?
https://www.throttlecontrol.com/p-11...-controls.aspx
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03-25-2019, 07:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PapaGSmurf
While heading to Williamsburg, VA (Sept 2018) and coming to an I95 traffic jam just outside Fredericksburg, as traffic started to move my Kongsberg adjustable pedal assembly pedal sensor decided to not allow the signal to the engine to move me down the road. After reading the 06-05-2012 08 Camelot post and doing research along with my mechanic back in Oregon and another Monaco group I belong to, I found 3 New Old Stock on eBay. I ordered two of them as they were cheap compared to the dealer in Mentor,Ohio for Kongsberg ($500+ and 13 weeks delivery for pedal and sensor). What I bought on eBay was the pedal, sensor, pedal bracket and drive motor with cable to connect to the brake side for $260 ea, normally $900 ea. Unbolted pedal and sensor and bolted new old one up and drove away. The 2012 post stated they were receiving new Hall Effect sensor which does not fail etc. Well mine was the Hall Effect sensor and ......! So for anyone of you out there who have the Adjustable Pedal Assembly beware. The pedal with sensor as I stated above is part# 53010N0-10SD-00.
I did the cleaning, unplugging and re plugging and it did get me another 300 mi and died 3 miles short of my destination.
PS I have a spare!!
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Wait a second which did you clean & etc , the original or one of
the new ones ?
Ray
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03-25-2019, 09:12 AM
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I happen to have a pedal with the same plug (now if I can find it in the MH)... the variable resistor part of the pedal. Had to remove the actual arm and rubber pad so I could remove the same part from the MH's and put on if mine (same as above) ever goes bad. With the part # off the resistor part you can find a similar one for less than $100.
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03-25-2019, 11:19 PM
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"Telefex model 67076-001" Was the 2nd generation pedal and there is no replacement according to Kongsberg in Texas. Mine is newer Hall Effect model that was not supposed to have issues, duh! Mine has 6 pin connection. On the Kongsberg website you want to look at the MT5000. Mine unit that failed has Telflex/Hag 5 label on pedal. The ones I bought off Ebay had a Freightliner label. Sensor had the same model number 6543212. Im new at this Posting so I hope I responded correctly.
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03-25-2019, 11:24 PM
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I cleaned the failed one. I also had a tech analyze original sensor in coach with software. Because the sensor was the Hall effect sensor, he said very unusual for it to fail. Usually connection problem.
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03-25-2019, 11:28 PM
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Mine is not a resistor sensor. The first tech thought it was and by exercising it it would basically clean contacts. No touching parts on mine. I tried to attach pic but no go.
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03-26-2019, 12:40 AM
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Quote
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Originally Posted by Ivylog
I happen to have a pedal with the same plug (now if I can find it in the MH)... the variable resistor part of the pedal. Had to remove the actual arm and rubber pad so I could remove the same part from the MH's and put on if mine (same as above) ever goes bad. With the part # off the resistor part you can find a similar one for less than $100.
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Two part sensor not available separate from pedal.
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03-26-2019, 04:16 AM
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The new throttle position assemblies use a "Hall Effect Sensor" so there is no "resistance" to measure. It works off of magnetic strength - so you have to test it by measuring the voltage while it is connected (and pedal moved through its range). here is a video on testing.
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03-26-2019, 01:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryB
The new throttle position assemblies use a "Hall Effect Sensor" so there is no "resistance" to measure. It works off of magnetic strength - so you have to test it by measuring the voltage while it is connected (and pedal moved through its range). here is a video on testing.
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Excellent !! Thank you. I wonder how I missed that one.
Gary
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