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Old 04-23-2011, 09:35 PM   #1
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2003 signature tail lights

Im looking for tail lights for a 03 signature. The sockets rusted out! The sockets would fix the problem but I cant seem to locate any. If anybody knows where I can find these please email me! the lights are manufactured by Hella. The top lights are amber the second and third lights are red and the fourth light is a white backup lamp.
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Google Dupree Products. Stephen sells lots of Bluebird parts including Hella tail lights. His web site shows the lights. They are hard to come by. Maybe Northwest RV Salvage. I bet Monaco has them at a price!
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Old 04-23-2011, 10:09 PM   #3
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What is the number on the outside of the lens?

How about posting a picture.
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Old 04-24-2011, 06:37 PM   #4
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These are what on the lenses:
The markings on the red are THK103, SAEST 89 DOT 02
The markings on the yellow are TH46 SAEI 88 DOT 02
The markings on the white are TR21 SAER 87 DOT 02
Thanks for the help
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Old 04-24-2011, 08:04 PM   #5
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Well I struck out with tracing the numbers. So how about send a picture of the light to me rbdtanasi at yahoo dot com and let me see if I can identify it.
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:10 PM   #6
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The tail lights look the same as the 2000 Blue Bird Wanderlodge LXI. does anyone know if they are?
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Hey Steve,

Another Steve here and also an '03 Sig driver. We full time in ours & have for going on 5 yrs. I have never seen any documentation as to the origin of the tail lights. Call the Monaco tech line. They have been very helpful to me with various problems.
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Dupree Products Inc. Call @ 888 668-4288. If you send him the specs and a picture I am sure he can match them up. Good Guy!
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Saduncan1, I believe you are 100% correct on those taillights. I looked at pictures of 2000-2001 Bluebird Wonderlodge LXI and they have the identical tail light lenses as my 2004 Signature. So now to find out where to get them. You should be able to just get the replacement sockets for them.

On your 2003 I find it hard to believe the bulb sockets rusted out. Did you have that black rubber boot tight around the socket? I guess I need to double check mine. Please let me know what you find out about those tail lights. You can email me direct at mike.c@mindspring.com.
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Here is the picture that Steve sent me of his tail lights. Most of the Monaco coaches use an automotive unit but these are not. I am still looking for them. If anyone finds them, please tell us where and what you find.
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Give DAn Hartley a call at Parliment Coach in FL 888-571-5755. He knows all about Blue Birds/Wonderlodge. He can give you info. Parliment bought all the part numbers/data on wonderlodge when they went belly up. Hope this helps.
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They are made by Hella for generic use. The Hella part numbers are as follows
Red is 65442
Yellow is 65289
White is 65958

I have a call into Hella righ now to see what catalog they are listed in.

Just for interest. The headlights on my 2004 Signature are from 2001-2003 BMW 525i. I believe those are the same as on a 2003 Sig.
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Mike - Thanks for the headlight numbers.
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Well here is the story from Hella. They stopped making them and they never sold the socket by itself.

It is actually called a 5603 Series and included the three in the back and the turn indicator in the front. It is possible that Hella has remade these under a different part number and I am having that researched now.

I have found the red ones and white ones at the below address but he does not have the front ones or the yellow ones.
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