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Old 05-23-2019, 09:58 AM   #1
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2008 Camelot, 2011 Diplomat

In my searching, I've come across two Monaco's that catch my eye - the Camelot is a 42PDQ, the Diplomat is a 43DFT with full wall slide.



What should I be aware of on these? Any major differences, other than price? Any known issues?


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Not a fan of the full wall slide
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Not a fan of the full wall slide

Any reason/negative experience that causes this view?
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:36 PM   #4
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Have owned it since new and don't believe it has any more problems than any other coach. 45,000 miles. Quality and features are better than many new ones today. No slide problems. I bought it because of the way the full wall slide opens up the coach. No regrets.

Shocks were useless first year. I got the Ride Enhancement Kit from Source Engineering in Coburg, OR. Huge improvement in ride and handling. Monaco reimbursed me for the cost.

The exhaust manifold was leaking and was replaced last year. Fortunately under warranty. Could be an expensive fix otherwise.

Slide toppers wore out pretty quick. Quality replacements are available from Stone Vos at reasonable price.

Other than that its the normal upkeep and maintenance, e.g., tires, batteries, fluids.
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I'll start by explaining some history.
The 2008 Camelot was built by the original Monaco Coach Corp sometime in 2007. They closed the doors in March 2009.
Navistar International purchased Monaco in Jun 2009 and tried to build coaches. They saw this as a market for their failed Maxforce engine lineup. Navistar is a business model on how not to manage a company. They were also involved in the class action lawsuits over the Ford Powerstroke diesel engine and several EPA disputes.

The Camelot will have a side radiator, Roadmaster chassis, Cummins ISL 400hp engine, and Allison 3000MH transmission. This will be a very nice coach built during Monaco's peak.

The Diplomat was built by Navistar in 2010. It may have a Maxforce Navistar engine. Navistar used up some Cummins engines that were in stock when Monaco closed and then began installing their own engines. It will be a rear radiator chassis. A rear radiator is a lower price point coach, but it makes routine engine maintenance difficult. Some folks have had issues with the Maxforce engines and some have had good service. Most truckers would not own one at any price.

I hope this helps your understanding.
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Hi aknavy. We have a 2011 Diplomat PD5 with 5 slides, 425 Cummings, and have owned it for 4 years with no major problems. We love the slide in a slide on the drivers side and it is not a full wall slide however.
I'd post a picture but haven't figured out how to yet!
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I have an 09 Camelot KFQ. It was built in 10/08, and is QUALITY.
So, itís 10 years old with almost 90K miles, but I trust it more than I could a 2011.
It has air leveling and Aqua Hot.
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The side radiator, Aqua hot (if it has it) and air leveling (if it has it) would clinch my decision to go with the Camelot (sister to my Beaver).
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The side radiator, Aqua hot (if it has it) and air leveling (if it has it) would clinch my decision to go with the Camelot (sister to my Beaver).


The specs for the Camelot

https://www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2008-...an-42kfq-tr238
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The side radiator, Aqua hot (if it has it) and air leveling (if it has it) would clinch my decision to go with the Camelot (sister to my Beaver).

It has all that...but the owner stopped communicating. Not sure what that means, but I'll keep looking.
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Any reason/negative experience that causes this view?


Everyone I talk to in my travels has had trouble with the full wall slide not limited to Monaco. Beside a Excursion now that the full slide will not close evenly
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Most of the new diesel coaches come with a full wall slide. Our last coach was a full wall slide. As long as its hydraulic, it should be no problem.
You will here a lot of negative comments on full wall slides, but these are usually from someone that doesn't own one.
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2008 Monaco knight DFT full wall slide have owned since new 45000 miles
no problem with full wall slide It does open up the coach. rear radiator makes it a maintenance PIA
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