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Old 02-07-2017, 10:10 PM   #1
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2009 Monaco Diplomat

Looking for any 2009 Monaco Diplomat 41PDQ owners out there... We are going to look at a unit this weekend. This will be our first motorhome and I was all excited to make it ours.....until I got on this Owners Forum Now I am scared to death to purchase this unit as many say to stay away from the '08-'10 models because of the bankruptcy, lack of build quality, etc...

I like this unit's layout, 400hp Cummins, and chassis. The other unit I was/am looking at is a '09 Tiffin Phaeton but the 360hp Cummins is less of a motor than I was hoping for.

Have any of you had any luck with your '09 models? I guess I am looking for a little hope ours will be a quality unit. Anything in particular I should be on the look out for?

Thanks for all of your comments, suggestions, and feedback.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:20 PM   #2
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Nothing to be afraid of, our 2008 Camelot is just fine. I think it's important if previous owner has documentation of services performed. That's a good start, owner can provide history.
Beside owning a coach is a hobby, you'll make your own. If you are uncomfortable with reviewing coach, hire a professional to help, especially mechanical. Run and start all systems, make sure they operate. Use the owners manual to review coach and check on all aspects.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:23 PM   #3
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If the 2009 MH has 2 or 3 thousand miles on it I would be concerned. If, however it has 20 or 30 thousand or more than I would not be. My reasoning is that if it has been used than the bugs have been worked out of it over the last 6-7 years. Look at it as you would any other 7 year old coach. Have it checked and if you like it, buy it. Just my thoughts. Good luck.
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Old 02-08-2017, 05:09 AM   #4
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Welcome to the forum.

As with any RV, you have to be handy with tools, a voltmeter, or a check book. The odds of taking any trip and not having to tighten or repair something is low.
We have an 08 Endeavor and it has been a fun unit. Tons of modificatons because it is indeed a hobby.

Check tire dates, generator hours, mileage. Generators need to be run to keep them fit.

Keep in mind these things live on a fault line and shake rattle and roll so things go wrong.

You could easily spend several thousands if things are not up to speed.
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Which engine does it have?

our 2011 has the 425hp cummins and is a HORSE of an engine... not even broken in yet @ 31,000 miles !

Have had ford diesel pickups for decades, but this cummins is making me rethink that

Good luck on your decision...
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If the 2009 MH has 2 or 3 thousand miles on it I would be concerned. If, however it has 20 or 30 thousand or more than I would not be. My reasoning is that if it has been used than the bugs have been worked out of it over the last 6-7 years. Look at it as you would any other 7 year old coach. Have it checked and if you like it, buy it. Just my thoughts. Good luck.
I have a 2009 Diplomat and happy with it, But its very true find something that has 15 + miles, most RV owners who buy new spend the 1st yr. having things fixed under warranties. And remember you can always purchase a warranties yourself if you want. Tires is a big expense check the date they were made. Good luck shopping
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When we compared (2006) Phaeton (360 ISC) vs Diplomat (400 ISL) there was a noticeable performance improvement with the 400 ISL. I'm sure the 360 ISC is capable in most situations, but the Phaeton just seemed a bit lazy compared to the Diplomat. They are both fine coaches, but if you are performance sensitive choose carefully.
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Which engine does it have?

our 2011 has the 425hp cummins and is a HORSE of an engine... not even broken in yet @ 31,000 miles !

Have had ford diesel pickups for decades, but this cummins is making me rethink that

Good luck on your decision...
John, It has the Cummins 400ISL, which was a big decision factor for me. I compared the spec sheets of both coaches last night, and for me, the Diplomat was unequivocally a better choice of the two.
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Good deal... and if you get it...
a quick trip to Cummins can get you a warranted upgrade of hp (for a cost, of course)
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In 2015 we bought the '09 Magna. I haven't found any less quality in construction or equipment even though Country Coach was in the throes of bankruptcy in '08 when ours was built. If you've looked the rig over and it meets you needs I wouldn't worry.
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I had a '09 HR Endeavor, twin to the Dip. After the first year, the coach warranty became moot but had 5 years on Cummins/Allison which is now gone for you on an '09 anyway. Had some issues, but the components are similar throughout the RV marketplace and it wasn't a problem keeping the coach at close to 100%. Dollar for dollar I'd go with the ISL and not fret about the status of the manufacturer. I'd bet Tiffin & Monaco are about the same degree of difficulty to maintain from that year. Just my thoughts....Ron
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Lot's of owners on here, having coaches going back to the 80's, think they own the last 'good' one built !
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I have that same year and floor plan. We love it. The only issue I had was the roadside front slide seal. Had it replaced at the service center in Indiana. We have put close to 18,000 miles on it this year with no problems at all.
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