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Old 04-21-2008, 11:42 AM   #1
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We have 4200 miles on the Cayman (ISB engine) and are trying to decide when to get the 5000 mile trans filter changed (and whatever else is involved). We are at Guaranty RV for a few days and they can do it. We have a pre-scheduled appointment with Monaco next week and could have them do it. Or we could continue on our way for the summer and possibly not be somewhere to get it done until the 6500 mile mark in October.

I had posted a previous question about the ride height inspection & adjustment being covered under warranty (or not). Could the ride height inspection/adjustment be accomplished at the same someone does the 5000 miles service?

Sorry if I seem to be thinking 'out loud', but I am!
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We have 4200 miles on the Cayman (ISB engine) and are trying to decide when to get the 5000 mile trans filter changed (and whatever else is involved). We are at Guaranty RV for a few days and they can do it. We have a pre-scheduled appointment with Monaco next week and could have them do it. Or we could continue on our way for the summer and possibly not be somewhere to get it done until the 6500 mile mark in October.

I had posted a previous question about the ride height inspection & adjustment being covered under warranty (or not). Could the ride height inspection/adjustment be accomplished at the same someone does the 5000 miles service?

Sorry if I seem to be thinking 'out loud', but I am!
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:58 AM   #3
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I'm almost at the 5K mark as well and I know that you need to get the Chassis lubed or at least the drive shaft. Not sure about anything else right now.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:14 PM   #4
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I have been doing the 5k service myself, but had Monaco do the transmission service. Last oil change I had Rocky Mountain Cummins do while I was there for a fuel tank repair. Much cheaper than the Monaco oil change.

The 5k chassis lube is not too difficult. If I can do it.... I have some pictures of the lube points here - http://www.chillaxnet.com/gallery2/m...ech/?g2_page=7 I aired up the coach, then extended the jacks a bit more. I saw Monaco do this when they did the service, so I felt pretty confident in doing it. Save me the safety speeches

When I was last at Monaco, I had them check the ride height because the driver side looked a bit lower then the passenger side. They adjusted the height under warranty. It may be a different person that does the height adjustment than the chassis service work. I found out at the Monaco center that they put the "newer" techs on the oil change/lube jobs, and the more experienced techs are used for other things. Should be no reason they can't do the same under the same appointment.


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Old 04-21-2008, 12:17 PM   #5
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At the FMCA Convention in Pomona, I spoke with the Allison folks about the 5000 mile filter change. They told me it was better to change it early rather than late. I had mine serviced in El Paso at 4700 miles. FYI it cost me $108.
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We had our 5000 mile service done at the Cummings NW across from the factory in Coburg. They did a great job and they also double check stuff with the computer hookup before you leave. We had the wrong Serial number recorded by Monaco for our engine, so they took care of that before we left. We also were able to stay overnight with hook-ups in their lot. We just arranged the visit around the factory service center visit.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:32 PM   #7
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We had the '07 La Palma serviced at 5k by Williams Detroit Diesel in Phoenix last year and it cost around $100, give or take. We also had alignment adjustments (and other stuff) so the combined bill was a little over $300 I believe. The paperwork went with the traded in La Palma so not sure.

I'll give Cummins NW a call and see what they charge and if they have availability next week. Monaco offers an Engine Preventative Maintenance which includes oil chg, lube, multi filter replacement, and INSPECITION of air filter, drive belts, engine hoses, air dryer operation, engine compartment fluid levels, tire pressure, horn, universal joints, differential fluid level, windshield wiper operation for $500. Not sure what Guaranty RV wants to charge. Looking first for competence, then price. <span class="ev_code_RED">(Right AKBrick?)</span>
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:56 PM   #8
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Monaco issued a tech addendum for the 5000 mile filter change. It states this isn't necessary after a certain serial number starting with the 07 tranny's. You can find it by going to the monaco site, click on service then click on technical addendum's and look for Allison Transmission under 2007. I had already changed mine before I came upon this article. Hope this helps.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SacsTC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Monaco issued a tech addendum for the 5000 mile filter change. It states this isn't necessary after a certain serial number starting with the 07 tranny's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
This does not pertain to the 2500 series transmissions that are in the Caymans. Valid for the 3000 and 4000 series transmissions only. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>...And you still need to lube the U joint.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:03 PM   #10
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Right Mick,
Beaudry drilled me a new one for over $400.00 for the tranny filter change out which I had to come back and have them fill the tranny after some problems caused by them. Read about it in my icemaker hose leak thread. I just couldn't bring myself to write anymore about it in a new thread. Quite frankly, that one flat wore me out.

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...And you still need to lube the U joint.

GOOD point and advise. 2500 miles is an even better interval for the U joints and slip spline.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Beaudry drilled me a new one for over $400.00 for the tranny filter change </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's horrible. It probably took them 30 minutes labor and less than $50 in parts (retail). I'm sure all of us have a similar horry story about service. I know I do.
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Okayyy....
Here's the breakdown:
Allison Tall Filter Part #29545779........$90.57
Synthetic Transynd Trans Fluid 1gal.......$58.27
Labor @ 115.00 for 2.2hrs................$253.00
Environmental Fees.........................$1.00
Shop Supplies External....................$12.65
Tax.......................................$12.59
For a Grand Total of.....................$428.08

So, there ya go. The "initial transmission filter changeout" by Beaudry RV.........Frustration afterwards....priceless.

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No wonder you are P.O., and from what I have read Allison does not require the filter change at 5K on your transmission.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AKBrick:
Okayyy....
Here's the breakdown:
Allison Tall Filter Part #29545779........$90.57
Synthetic Transynd Trans Fluid 1gal.......$58.27
Labor @ 115.00 for 2.2hrs................$253.00
Environmental Fees.........................$1.00
Shop Supplies External....................$12.65
Tax.......................................$12.59
For a Grand Total of.....................$428.08

So, there ya go. The "initial transmission filter changeout" by Beaudry RV.........Frustration afterwards....priceless.

Tom </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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