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Old 01-16-2019, 05:59 PM   #1
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Aladdin system - Can backup camera be full-time?

Been combing through the Aladdin manual (Aladdin 4xx Coach Monitor Systems) to find out if it is possible to set the back up camera monitor to full-time mode. At times I like to get a rear view for approaching traffic and determining enough space for a lane change. Can this be done? If so, how? Thanks much.


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Been combing through the Aladdin manual (Aladdin 4xx Coach Monitor Systems) to find out if it is possible to set the back up camera monitor to full-time mode. At times I like to get a rear view for approaching traffic and determining enough space for a lane change. Can this be done? If so, how? Thanks much.


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I found the signal wires from my side cameras. I installed a single pole double throw switch to turn them on or off, though I leave them off.
This leaves the rear camera on all of the time.
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Old 01-16-2019, 06:12 PM   #3
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Thanks, Captjake1. Even though, I do not have side cameras, are you saying that my system is wired for these?
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That don't know. I know there are several variations on the Alladin system.
My screen in the dash handled the engine information as well as cameras. I went so far as to install a dedicated 7" screen n for the engine info and left the in dad screen for cameras.
On line, the screen would change to side cameras on turn signal. That's what led me to this solution.
Sorry it doesn't seem to be the same setup.
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Well, I wired my backup camera to a Y connector and put it to the aux input on the dash video display. When I want the backup view "only" I swap the display from primary (normal display for input 1) to input 2 where just the backup camera is wired. Not sure if you have multiple inputs or not to your display. Maybe need a second display for that.

Also, on my 05 Executive, the Alladin display I can select the camera input to only one setting if I want, the only problem is that I have to cycle through all the other Alladin options to go from one page to another meaning, it is quicker to hit the video 1 or 2 button to cycle from backup camera to Alladin display than cycle through all the Alladin options (not sure I am making that clear).
I like the backup camera also as I am always towing something. But I also like the Alladin engine and or coach electrical status pages in a hurry so to speak.

I have been thinking about wiring it up to go to the backup camera when I turn on a turn signal rather than the turn signal cameras. I find the backup camera much more useful when changing lanes in traffic because it give a better perspective on how close that traffic in the opposing lane is than the turn signal camera.

Any of that make sense?
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Been combing through the Aladdin manual (Aladdin 4xx Coach Monitor Systems) to find out if it is possible to set the back up camera monitor to full-time mode. At times I like to get a rear view for approaching traffic and determining enough space for a lane change. Can this be done? If so, how? Thanks much.


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I also added a second display that shows the backup camera view only. Used an RCA Y splitter and plugged in the camera lead where it enters the distribution box, one lead then back into the box the other to the new display. You will need a Y adapter that has one male spilt into two females I believe. The factory display functions as normal but the new one is rear camera only. I also needed to add a signal booster since splitting the camera signal weakened the brightness.
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My Aladin goes to a Voyager screen display, so I can just hit the pause button on any of the 4 camera views and it will stay there as long as I want.
I prefer to leave it paused on the engine information screen. My rear view actually see's the hitch and front of the toad, and is not adjustable so I have no view of the back half of the toad or beyond.
I am use to driving a semi pulling double trailers so judging distance isn't that difficult for me. I just add 60 feet of distance from the back of the mh. since I can not see the toad in my mirror. This way I am not cutting anyone off and scaring them into doing a panic move. I also signal my lane change for 10 seconds or so before I actually move over. Some folks especially truckers will flash their headlights to let you know you are clear of them and good to change lanes....This is very helpful in learning the distance in your mirrors.
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Thanks for your replies. My take-away so far is that I cannot do this without some type of wiring modification. My goal now is to learn where the connectors and appropriate wires are located. Perhaps it will prove simpler to add a separate wireless camera and monitor. Without these great winter-time projects I may actually have to give attention to the DW's list around the house.
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I also added a second display that shows the backup camera view only. Used an RCA Y splitter and plugged in the camera lead where it enters the distribution box, one lead then back into the box the other to the new display.


2x this ⬆️. Paid about $30 for a 7” display on Amazon and about $5 for a RCA “Y” splitter. Mounted new display on the dash directly above the in-dash display. New display is rear-view all the time, and the in-dash shows Aladdin data and switches to side cameras when turn signals are on. Highly recommend!
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The Aladdin manual it says the Rear View Camera will stay on when the coach is in Reverse (or when Hazard Lights are on), so it should not be too hard to tie into the backup lights (or hazard lights) circuit with a toggle switch to send a power signal to the Aladdin. You would need to use a diode in the circuit so you don't send power back to backup lights (or Hazard lights) when the toggle switch is On sending power to the Aladdin. That would keep Backup camera on all the time
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Been combing through the Aladdin manual (Aladdin 4xx Coach Monitor Systems) to find out if it is possible to set the back up camera monitor to full-time mode. At times I like to get a rear view for approaching traffic and determining enough space for a lane change. Can this be done? If so, how? Thanks much.


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Sandy -

I turn mine on for always show the rear camera.

When it powers up the top menu item on mine shows Camera View (something like that anyway). You go in there and one of the options is rearview camera. Select and it is always showing. Page 10

http://www.tckempke.com/HRNav/Aladdi...s-Guide-05.pdf



This is on my 04 Windsor anyway. HTH!
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Camera 4 option?

My Aladdin control has an arrow right that takes the display from whatever screen you are on (usually kept on engine and trans temperature screen) directly to camera 4. Right click and you go to camera 4. left click and you are back to the primary screen where you were before. Only problem is I do not have a camera 4.


could I use a splitter to split the rear camera output and send it to the camera 4 position? This would allow me to simply toggle to it when I want to check the toad without having to go through the plethora of menu buttons.
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I turn mine on for always show the rear camera.

When it powers up the top menu item on mine shows Camera View (something like that anyway). You go in there and one of the options is rearview camera. Select and it is always showing. Page 10

http://www.tckempke.com/HRNav/Aladdi...s-Guide-05.pdf



This is on my 04 Windsor anyway. HTH!

Thanks Paul, I will try that when I drive it home from the service shop next week (having a slide seal replaced). I thought that I had toggled through all of the menu options.
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If Paul L's suggestion doesn't work (fingers crossed, Paul), I will go with what others said about using a Y splitter connector.
With help from you all, I'm sure we will wrestle this down. Thanks much folks.
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