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Old 05-10-2013, 11:44 AM   #1
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Anybody use OBD Scanners on their Rigs?

Using by buddy's scanner, i detected that my F-250 threw a code (P0299) and I figured I would purchase one myself. However, before i do that I wanted to check with you friendly folk to see if there is a device that would be appropriate for my coach as well - assuming they have OBD 2 connections.

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Many of us have installed Silverleaf VMS systems which not only provide code reading but also allows for creation of a custom "dash" on a PC screen to monitor and track nearly everything the chassis bus measures.

Overkill for just the reading of codes though.

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Old 05-10-2013, 12:28 PM   #3
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If you have a diesel engine Scangauge D has worked well for me with the exception that it will not read trans-temp in our rig. All other functions work as advertised.
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:24 PM   #4
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broadrun.....As Rick stated, many of us use the SilverLeaf Program where you can buy one of their boxes with a digital screen you mount on your dash (very pricey) or do what most people do, buy their cable and run the info on a laptop. They give you their program for free, that you can download and play with it's screens and configuration, but in order for it to work, you have to buy their proprietary cable ($350.00) and connect to your OBD sensor (I forgot the name of what they call an OBD connection on diesels).

I'm sure the $350.00 is cheaper or about the same price as a scanner, but I would rather have their program and run it on a laptop. Their program shows you everything that the Cummins engine computer can see.

Here is how I set mine up. I use a small notebook computer that I run all the time. I won't even start my coach without this program running. It has so much info. It will even estimate your rolling torque and rolling horsepower. It also gives you instant mpg which really helps me save fuel. My coach has the older Allison trans control panel that only has one window. This program lets you run the two window version on the screen, letting you know what gear you're in.

This photo shows how I laid my screen out. You can use digital gauges, analog gauges, have 20 things showing or two things showing. The hard part was deciding what I wanted to see and how I wanted to display it.

This photo is my coach idling in Neutral. You can see the Allison is in Neutral (NN) in the upper left. My turbo boost, tach and speed are under that. The second column shows my oil pressure, coolant temp, trans temp and voltage. The program allows me to put alarms on each program and set the parameters. The green circle shows that I'm running within parameters. As you get close to exceeding the parameters, they change to yellow, then red and then alarm.

I like seeing my rolling HP and torque in the next column. Below that is the % of engine load. Cummins DOES NOT read egr temps via it's computer, so the SilverLeaf program can't give you that info. The next best thing is intake manifold temp.

In the last column, I run instant mpg, and then two trip odometers. The upper one I change each fill-up, the next one I run throughout a trip and the lower one is info from the first day the engine fired, which Cummins captures and stores forever.

The fuel mileage parameters have to be adjusted through the program to get them accurate. It took me several adjustments, but I'm about + or - 2-3% on my mpg. Since it shows gallons used, I kept adjusting until my figures were pretty much right on at each fill-up.

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Old 05-10-2013, 02:42 PM   #5
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Thanks Everybody. Glad i decided to run it by you guys before I made my decision.

Don, thanks so much for the detail and picture. As they say, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure - and curing a Diesel can be very costly.
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One follow up question -

Can anyone tell me where the scanner connection is inside the coach? I looked under the steering column and all over that area. Lots of wires/connections but nothing that looks like an OBD 2.

I would assume that Monarch would locate things like this in similar spots for most of their coach lines/models but I have a 2001 HR Endeavor.
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If your Endeavor is a DP then you need to look for a J1939 plug, it's a round 9-pin unit.
Look at the Silverleaf website for the page that shows the plug styles. http://www.silverleafelectronics.com...nnectors_0.pdf
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:39 PM   #8
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If your Endeavor is a DP then you need to look for a J1939 plug, it's a round 9-pin unit.
Look at the Silverleaf website for the page that shows the plug styles. http://www.silverleafelectronics.com...nnectors_0.pdf
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Has anyone use AutoEnginuity?
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