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Old 01-12-2019, 11:15 AM   #1
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Bedroom Slideout - Frame Mechanism Pulled Loose From Coach Floor

My bed slideout is actuated by an electric slideout mechanism. Recently, the mechanism frame pulled loose from the coach floor. It is attached to the floor with approximately twenty 1.5 inch screws. All pulled loose.


Since I'm uncertain what the coach floor is made of and unsure what lies beneath it, I've been apprehensive to effect repairs. I drilled two new holes in the mechanism frame in an attempt to place two new screws. One screw appeared to hold tight in the floor material--the other did not. It appears it might be helpful to install an anchor into the floor similar to the ones used to mount heavy mirrors or picture frames on a standard home interior wall. Before doing so it would be helpful to know what the floor is made of, i.e. it's cross section and to know if there is any wiring etc. underneath. If anyone has experienced this type of problem before and/or has ideas on how to repair this please let me know. I can't move the coach until I get this figured out.


Noe: I've attached an image of the slideout frame to this thread. You can see the screw holes on both sides of the black, metal frame.

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Bedroom Slideout - Frame Mechanism Pulled Loose From Coach Floor

I will note I discovered numerous loose screws on my 01 a few years ago. Might be worth checking if you have a 01 range dynasty. I would pound slightly oversized dowels with exterior wood glue on them. Let it dry for 24 hours in glue on slightly then pre drill undersized for the screws. I壇 start there before drilling into the floor. If you do have to drill new I would go no deeper than your existing holes.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:34 AM   #3
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Bedroom Slideout - Frame Mechanism Pulled Loose From Coach Floor

I have a similar situation with my 2000 Endeavor. There is steel tubing below the plywood or OSB, and I知 guessing that the anchor screws are supposed to thread into the steel tubing. Over time, the wood compresses a bit, allowing the mechanism to move. The leverage of the slide weight and the slide motor are enough to pop the heads off of the anchor screws. Each screw that fails places additional stress on those that remain. There is no way to get a tool onto the broken screw without extensive floor damage. A local metal fabricator suggested drilling between the existing screws, with a large enough hole to put a threaded insert into the steel tubing, allowing the use of threaded bolts instead of sheet metal screws. I知 waiting for warmer weather to try it.
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Old 01-13-2019, 04:25 AM   #4
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I would cutout the carpeting so the frame rests directly on the subfloor. The carpeting is "spongy" and can allow some movement which lets the screws rock and loosen.

Add a little wood glue to each hole and then install the next larger screw size in each hole (so if there was a #10 x 1-1/4 screw in there, use a #12 x 1-1/4).

I would not go any longer on the screws. And if you cut away the carpeting first, probably be better to go a 1/4" shorter on the screws. You don't want to risk running the screws through the bottom of slide.

The larger screws and carpenter's wood glue will ensure those new screws will not pull out.
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You might try some of the suggestions, removing the carpeting is important. You might also trying adding some heavy clips that overlap the angle along each side to keep it tight to the floor. The additional screws in the clips should strengthen the attachment and keep it from moving.
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I will note I discovered numerous loose screws on my 01 a few years ago. Might be worth checking if you have a 01 range dynasty. I would pound slightly oversized dowels with exterior wood glue on them. Let it dry for 24 hours in glue on slightly then pre drill undersized for the screws. I壇 start there before drilling into the floor. If you do have to drill new I would go no deeper than your existing holes.
Thank you for the suggestion. Yes, I have an 01 Dynasty as well. I'm afraid I don't quite understand what you are suggesting by "pound slightly oversized dowels on them". If possible, could you describe what you are suggesting a bit further?

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I have a similar situation with my 2000 Endeavor. There is steel tubing below the plywood or OSB, and I知 guessing that the anchor screws are supposed to thread into the steel tubing. Over time, the wood compresses a bit, allowing the mechanism to move. The leverage of the slide weight and the slide motor are enough to pop the heads off of the anchor screws. Each screw that fails places additional stress on those that remain. There is no way to get a tool onto the broken screw without extensive floor damage. A local metal fabricator suggested drilling between the existing screws, with a large enough hole to put a threaded insert into the steel tubing, allowing the use of threaded bolts instead of sheet metal screws. I知 waiting for warmer weather to try it.
I spoke with Monaco and was told the original screws were screwed into the OSB only. They were not supposed to be attached to the steel tubing. How do you plan to locate the steel tubing below the OSB? I'm a bit concerned to start drilling new holes blindly/

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You might try some of the suggestions, removing the carpeting is important. You might also trying adding some heavy clips that overlap the angle along each side to keep it tight to the floor. The additional screws in the clips should strengthen the attachment and keep it from moving.

What do you see as the advantage of using clips versus just drilling a few new holes in the steel frame? The problem I have found is that the integrity of the OSB is poor at best and screws don't fasten tightly.
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I spoke with Monaco and was told the original screws were screwed into the OSB only. They were not supposed to be attached to the steel tubing. How do you plan to locate the steel tubing below the OSB? I'm a bit concerned to start drilling new holes blindly/



Thank you.

I wish that I could tell you that I have a solid plan. I知 not afraid to drill some small-diameter exploratory holes, but I知 really hoping that the slide mechanism crosses over some steel structure. I know that there are tools to detect the metal floor structure through the OSB, but I知 not sure where to find them. The farther from the wall, the better it will work. IMO, there痴 a lot of shoddy design in my coach, and I知 hoping to improve it as I work through the renovation process.
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Okay. I checked mine again and a couple were not tight. If you have an older dynasty I would check
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Pulled one screw at a time and put one (sands length as screw) 1/8 dowel in the hole coated with exterior wood glue. Then I coated a 2nd 1/8 dowel with glue and cut the end on a Angie so I would go in next to the dowel already in the hole. Tapped it in with a hammer and trimmed the excess with a chisel. I added a star washer to the screw and screwed it in with a drill Click image for larger version

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Good job. That should hold for along time.
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