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Old 04-18-2019, 07:35 PM   #1
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Could have been a disaster

We just returned home from a 2000 mile trip to Arizona and back. Before we left we had our tires rotated and an alignment done. When we got back home we noticed one of our lugnut covers was missing. Looking at the lug it hardly comes through the wheel. We then took off another cover on the back wheel and we were able to unscrew the lugnut by hand. I then decide to check the front ones and I was able to remove 2 with a crescent wrench and I am a girl LOL. Not really funny, I cant believe we didn't lose a wheel or 2 or 3. I am posting pictures and want to know if the lug should come through the wheel further.
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Old 04-18-2019, 08:13 PM   #2
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I looks like the nuts that came loose are used to only hold the decorative covers on the wheel and not the actual wheel nuts. Normally those nuts are not tightened as tight as the wheel nuts. Still they should not have come loose.
The lug length you show looks about rite. If you remove all the lug nuts and the cover , you will see the ones holding the wheel on.
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Soppy, not sure about that, looks like lug was loose, photo shows lug threads which is a problem.
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It took 5 or 6 turns to tighten all of them. I figured you needed all the lugnuts tight to hold the wheel on.
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you have a problem there, is there a stainless liner inside the wheel you have to take the wheels off and investigate more that is not enough thread to hold wheel on
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Lug nuts should have been re-torqued after 50 miles , then again after 200 , VERY important on dual wheels .

So important that that the tire store that installed my tires has it printed out on my work order , I had to prove to them that I had the correct torque wrench and sockets to re-torque them my self and sign off on the work order that I was doing it myself.

450 Ft/Lbs is the spec on my chassis .
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Looks to me like it the nut that holds the wheel liner on.
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We had the exact same problem when we had an alignment (expensive) job done in Salt Lake City before we went to AZ this last January!

They need to take off the wheel simulators (hub caps) to do the alignment. The problem was that the tech forgot to tighten the outer nut that holds on the simulator (only a few threads hold it on). We lost one nut and nut cover on our trip.

On our way back home, I stopped at the shop to complain and ask them to replace the nut and cap. They told me to find the parts and bill them. The caps I found at a local truck shop but the nuts I had to order online from Wheel Masters (the simulator manufacture). The nut is an oddball size of 30mm and 25mm in height. The shop paid for the nuts and a pack on eight caps.
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Call a tire place and get it check by a pro. Even a road service truck can get it squared away.

If they are loose, you have some damage already.
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Call a tire place and get it check by a pro. Even a road service truck can get it squared away.

If they are loose, you have some damage already.
agree. i wouldn't move it from where it sits without some answers that gave me confidence.
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Hard to tell by the photo, but I suspect the wheel simulator nut only is lose.

I strongly recommend removing the simulators and verify the lug torque. If they are 19.5 inch, they need to be torqued to 150 ft-lbs. You should be carrying a torque wrench in your kit.


The nuts that hold the wheel simulators on are tight. I was looking for a torque spec??? I snug mine up, I'd guess 35-50 ft lbs?
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I was always under the assumption that all lug nuts should be torqued to the same torque and torqued in a criss cross pattern.

22. 5 wheels to 450 FT Lbs
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Does your hub cover use the retainers like these (where the actual lug nuts are torqued to spec then the hub cover uses a different nut to hold it in place). If that is the case having loose hub cover nuts would not be a safety issue (not loose wheel nuts).
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Hard to tell by the photo, but I suspect the wheel simulator nut only is lose.

I strongly recommend removing the simulators and verify the lug torque. If they are 19.5 inch, they need to be torqued to 150 ft-lbs. You should be carrying a torque wrench in your kit.


The nuts that hold the wheel simulators on are tight. I was looking for a torque spec??? I snug mine up, I'd guess 35-50 ft lbs?



My 19.5 inch lug nuts are to be torqued at 450 ft-lbs.


OP has Wheel Masters simulators. Says so in the second pic. In the first pic you can see where the wheel simulator nut flange rubs on the simulator.


I also tighten my simulator nuts by hand with a socket wrench.
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