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10-21-2016, 05:49 AM
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Diesel Additive-question from newbie
Hello all,
Being a rookie at RV'ing (first one at age 61 in hopes of full-timing next year), I'm unclear about what to do with my fuel during storage over this winter. I'm putting my rig in an underground storage location that is a consistent 55 degrees year round. I'm leaving it here for the winter months (e.g. 5 mo's). I am required to have 1/2 tank of fuel and no more for storage.
Question: Should I add some stabilizer and/or algaecide/anti-gel to my tank for the 5 months of down time? If so, what products have proven to be successful for you.
thanks all,
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10-21-2016, 06:01 AM
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I'd put a quart of service power in or 911 and it should be good to go.
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10-21-2016, 06:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rfriebert
Hello all,
I'm putting my rig in an underground storage location that is a consistent 55 degrees year round. I'm leaving it here for the winter months (e.g. 5 mo's).
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I spent a few yrs in the area (22), how are you storing under ground, are you using the salt mines to store your rv? Not sure if that is a good idea due to salt and rust creation from my experience on the roads...
curious minds want to know...
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10-21-2016, 06:25 AM
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I don't think you will have a problem with fuel stability over 3-4 months. Fill up and go for long drive at start of new season. But the possible salt environment I would think would be less than ideal. Are the roads salt ?
If so, I would give it a major underside wash at first trip also.
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10-21-2016, 06:50 AM
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I just did some quick reading on storing biodiesel, some nasty stuff. biodiesel degrades quickly in the presence of oxygen, water, and has a nasty pH. So if you can, I'd make sure the fuel has the lowest % bio before storing, and the fullest tank possible. I'm not sure about the humidity being underground. Cold should slow the microbes from growing, but humidity acts like an accelerate...
The military bans biodiesel for tactical military vehicles, even under current military fuel specs.
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10-21-2016, 07:10 AM
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When I store my rig between uses I add an algaecide, I use Biobor. I also use Startron Enzyme treatment which also breaks down any dead algae.
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10-21-2016, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jacwjames
When I store my rig between uses I add an algaecide, I use Biobor. I also use Startron Enzyme treatment which also breaks down any dead algae.
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Not driving a Diesel I can not coment on the gut a friend of mine has an absolute gorgeous Blue Bird Bus, about 25-26 years old.
He had engine issues, both Generator and Main engine.
Technician is here working on it, it's now running fine at full idle.. He's stumped.. Inspriation strikes and I point to the fuel pre-filter (it has two filters) sure enough, algae all over it.
The above advice is very necessary these days.. As for other additives, as I said, I do not drive a diesel.. So can not comment.
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10-21-2016, 07:51 AM
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If I see BIO on the pump I pull out and go find a place that does not have it.
I put diesel kleen in about every other tank and it seems to keep my fuel happy it also seems to improve the ketones and gets a little better mileage don't ask me how to prove it.
Some say snake oil and waste but been using it for 20 years and have 106,000 on my isl 400 it runs great so I don't mess with success
I put it in before I park for winter months is so texas and my aquahot is happy
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10-21-2016, 08:37 AM
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I'm intrigued by the underground storage. Most natural underground features have high humidity.
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10-22-2016, 06:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerryvan
I spent a few yrs in the area (22), how are you storing under ground, are you using the salt mines to store your rv? Not sure if that is a good idea due to salt and rust creation from my experience on the roads...
curious minds want to know...
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Fortunately it is not a salt mine. This is a limestone mine that was carved out of the inside of a mountain. 55 degrees year round and I'm told that humidity is around 65 - 75 %. They do have specific climate controlled areas for other applications. Close her up, cover the top and put some Damp Rid though out and we're good to go. No winterizing needed.
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10-22-2016, 09:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rfriebert
Fortunately it is not a salt mine. This is a limestone mine that was carved out of the inside of a mountain. 55 degrees year round and I'm told that humidity is around 65 - 75 %. They do have specific climate controlled areas for other applications. Close her up, cover the top and put some Damp Rid though out and we're good to go. No winterizing needed.
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FYI Experts say the humidity levels your state are far above what promotes mold growth.
I had a friend that mold issues due to excessive dampness in his coach while in storage and he ended up having to tear the coach down to a bare skeleton to resolve the i$$ue.
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10-22-2016, 10:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rfriebert
Fortunately it is not a salt mine. This is a limestone mine that was carved out of the inside of a mountain.
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Thanks for the clarification, I saw the Mentor address, the limestone Mountain is not like the Mentor that I recall shopping at...
Hope you do something with the diesel fuel, any bio diesel would worry me stored in that condition.
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10-24-2016, 07:19 AM
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Responee
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerryvan
Thanks for the clarification, I saw the Mentor address, the limestone Mountain is not like the Mentor that I recall shopping at...
Hope you do something with the diesel fuel, any bio diesel would worry me stored in that condition.
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The facility is in Wampum pa.
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10-25-2016, 06:46 AM
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A full tank is your friend when storing .
Do they want you to drive around until you get to half a tank ?
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