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Old 08-05-2013, 12:44 PM   #1
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DirecTV vs. DISH Network

This is almost like asking for tire preferences, but here’s the situation/question:
We have a King-Dome In-Motion satellite, model 9762LP-42 which came with the coach. We currently use DirecTV, which has met our requirements so far. Now the DW is looking for HD signal plus the capability of recording programs. According to King Dome customer service and the owner’s manual the model King-Dome we have will pick up HD programming from the DISH Network but not from DirecTV.
I can only go on what I’m told so that’s the reason for asking your opinion about the two service providers. We’ll be FTing in a month spending about half the time in FL and the other half in the Northeast (VA, MD, PA).
I believe in both situations we’ll be upgrading the box. DISH network has comparable pricing with DirecTV after Year 1, however they give pretty good discounts for the first year.
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Old 08-05-2013, 01:25 PM   #2
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You have done your homework! Everything you said is correct as far as I know.

We have Dish Pay-as-you-go (ViP-211K/Rooftop Winegard and Tailgater portable).
It has a large amount of included HD and freebies (like a month of HBO or Sundance rotated each year). Dish offers the inexpensive hard-drive upgrade/addition to the receiver and ease of use.

And, as a new subscriber you can get a deal on a bundled pack that is not offered once you are a subscriber...like a ViP-211K receiver with a Tailgater portable at $499 for when there are evil signal sucking (shade) trees at your camp spot - where I usually like to park.
Shop Online for the latest Mobile / Portable / RV Satellite TV Bundles - DishForMyRV.com

The channel package is up to you for monthly cost - BUT DNS (east and west coast Network feeds) is from a 3rd party vendor in SD ONLY.
ALLAMERICANDIRECT.COM
Instead, we always call Dish or use the on-line chat to turn-on the network "Locals" spot beamed to a 300-400 mile area around the nearest town.

Best of luck
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:59 PM   #3
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My two cents.....Since you're going full time, I would dump the dome antenna or move it to the rear of the coach for a second TV and then add the new Winegard HD open dish antenna.

I'm a DirecTV subscriber, not a Dish customer, but we had Dish at work. I felt that DirecTV was a better service. I know that Dish is the only one that offers HD in a dome system, but my understanding is that it's slow when changing stations because the dish has to move between satellites.

The reason DirecTV has to have an open dish for HD channels is that it's using three satellites to get all of it's channels. To do this, it requires an oval dish that can skew (angle the oval dish) to get all three satellites. A sat dish inside a dome doesn't have room to skew.

We had a KVH dome for years and found that whenever there was heavy dew or rain, we lost or had poor satellite service. We don't get this with our open HD dish. Lastly, Dish's satellites are lower in the horizon and can be more difficult to access in some area of the country.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:59 AM   #4
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I just had the Winegard Travler installed on my coach and had Dish Network install the Hopper in the front and a Joey in the rear and it works perfect. I have another Hopper and 3 Joey's installed in the sticks and bricks, we watch HDTV in the coach just as if we were at home and record 6 channels at one time. Dish now installs that system in coaches not just the 211 model now. I just called them and a Dish employee came out and installed the system in my coach. There was no wiring to be done as most coaches have cable run from front to rear already. It only took 15 min to install. My Winegard dish works incredible, even if there are trees it looks right thru most of them with no trouble (much larger antenna than in a dome). It changes channels instantly with no delay.....

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I just installed the Winegard SK-1000 open dish

I could care less about in-motion TV. When I am driving, my DW and I are focused full time on keeping this Dynasty going where we want to go and out of trouble. What was important to me is to be able to record most of what we watch asynchronously. We record and then watch tv when it is convenient and sans commercials. So, I wanted to be able to switch from one channel to another instantly and record one while watching another or record multiple simultaneously or better, to record many channels while we are gone. My old KVH R5 took 10 to 15 minutes to move from channel to channel if it meant a different sat.

So this SK-1000 is a dream come true. This is an open dish system that looks just like your dish at home. It "folds" up on the roof and then unfolds to find sats. Dish Network uses 3 sats for all, or virtually all channels. The channels are 110, 119, and 129 and they lie on the same skew line in the SW sky. No need to reposition the dish once it locks in one position. The SK-1000 has 3 "horns" or LMN antennas on the boom to get all three sats at the same time. Therefore, I receive all 200 channels I pay for at the same time. It is true bliss. Instant switching from channel to channel, all available, all the time. Initially, Takes about 5 min to find the three sats and you turn the antenna control off until you move to a new location. I am VERY IMPRESSED with this set up. Now one advantage of Dish to Direct is that you can pay for one month and stop for two months and start for one month. Their phone customer service has historically been fantastically helpful. Finally, if I was full timing, I would have nothing other than this sort of system. Installed it myself in about 4 hours including removal of the R5

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Old 08-06-2013, 10:55 AM   #6
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For DirecTV get the new Trav'ler SWM dish.
Check with DTV on a upgrade to a Genie HR34 or 44 if it is out yet.
They have 5 turners in them. And can be used for Whole House set up.
DTV with DNS unlike Dish Network(analog) has HD for ABC/CBS/NBC/FOX with CW & PBS analog included.
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My two cents.....Since you're going full time, I would dump the dome antenna or move it to the rear of the coach for a second TV and then add the new Winegard HD open dish antenna...
Why would you have the Dome and the Winegard HD open dish antenna? With Dish, the Winegard HD dish can be used with many receivers, all you need is the cable run to them, no other equipment.
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