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Old 05-21-2018, 04:17 PM   #1
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dissapointed with the lack of help from Monaco

I have a 2004 Diplomat 40 ". I am trying to find out how the tow plug is wired in. I called Monaco and they said they couldn't help me because they didn't build my coach. I have no turn signal, brake or running light power feeding into the plug. Can someone explain how that plug is wired in so I can trace it and get power back in that plug
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True, the Monaco of today did not build your '04 Diplomat. Download a wiring diagram for a tow plug and start testing the wires, youbshoukd have it wired as a standard 7 pin. Diagrams are available all over the 'net. Be aware that there are more than one "standard" too.
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Old 05-21-2018, 04:21 PM   #3
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REV has decided we donít care anymore. Has only happened in the last year. We recently attended the MS419 in Goshen and they didnít even participate.

Now for your problem. Look for fuses located in the fuse box in the lower front bay below the driver seat. At least thatís where mine are with my 2006 Diplomat
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:32 AM   #4
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On my 07 Diplomat the fuses for the tail lights are located in the passenger side rear bay where the inverter is located. I took off the old 7 and 5 pin connector and installed new ones. Just download the 7 and 5 pin wiring charts and test the wires to make sure they go to the correct terminal.
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:43 AM   #5
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First off, welcome to iRV2!

Second, you should add a signature to your user profile. It gets appended to each post, and often includes details about your coach, toad, etc., that would be tedious to type into each post. Instructions for adding a signature are here.

Below find two diagrams that MAY apply to your coach. They are slightly newer than 2004. If they do apply, you will find the fuses and relays in the Rear Distribution Box.
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File Type: pdf dip_chassis_12v.pdf (1.10 MB, 27 views)
File Type: pdf 16622596 (DIAGRAM, REAR DISTRIBUTION).pdf (72.2 KB, 25 views)
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:45 AM   #6
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Welcome to REV who could care less about older coaches. I quit calling long ago as every time I called, I got the standard answer that we have no info on your coach. Thank god for resources like this site and others that are dedicated to helping with our older coaches.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:04 AM   #7
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Welcome to the forum. You are in the right place. Already some great answers posted.

I highly recommend using a test light when chasing wires for towing. A voltmeter can fool you if there is a weak connection or corrosion creating resistance.

To find the path of the wires this complex looking device is very handy. Don't be intimidated by its appearance. Using one of the supplied connectors you clip the tone injector onto the wire or pin you wish to trace and then use the "Fox" to sniff out the path. This tool should be in every rvers electrical troubleshooting box. They are available at Lowes etc for a bit more money but are more robust than the one shown. I use the one shown and have had it for several years.

https://www.amazon.com/ELEGIANT-Tele...=signal+tracer
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Even when it was Monaco (after the bankruptcy and before the REV acquisition) the quality of help from Monaco was marginal.

This site ALWAYS came through for me. The tow plug on my coach is down in the dirt stream under the rear of the coach and it gave me fits for years. Every time I would hook up was an adventure. Finally put an ezconnector on mine (ezconnector.com) not cheap but is sure is nice to have it just work.

On my coach the 7 way plug wiring terminated at a plug at the rear of the engine with a 6-pin Delphi connector attached to a cross brace.
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Hi ! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the gang!

Until recently Monaco Tech Support would help with older coaches, but I hear that they no longer do that. I guess it's understandable that it's a different company now and they don't want to spend time on the old models, but it sure makes it hard on some of us. I have gotten a lot of help from them in the past.

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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Welcome Your best place for answers for your Monaco is right here.
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I think it was 2 years ago Monaco support was quite helpful on an issue I was having. Too bad thats not still the case.

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I had the same problem on my 2004 Monaco Monarch.The 7 pin rear plug was wired for towd,but was not "hot".Nobody could tell me where a fuse could be on the many fuse panels.Out of frustration I cut the wire at the plug,and pulled a new"8-ga."wire all the way to eng. batteries.Problem solved,works great
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I had the same problem on my 2004 Monaco Monarch.The 7 pin rear plug was wired for towd,but was not "hot".Nobody could tell me where a fuse could be on the many fuse panels.Out of frustration I cut the wire at the plug,and pulled a new"8-ga."wire all the way to eng. batteries.Problem solved,works great
For others coming across this post in the future, the 12V hitch connector charge line on the Monaco Monarchs/HR Admirals/Safari Simbas (gas) of this period are fed from a 15A circuit breaker in position F30 inside the Front Distribution Panel (FDP). The FDP is inside the black plastic box that itself is inside the front-most driver-side exterior storage compartment.

F30 is energized through relay RL5, also on the FDP, so it only gets power when the ignition is on.
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For others coming across this post in the future, the 12V hitch connector charge line on the Monaco Monarchs/HR Admirals/Safari Simbas (gas) of this period are fed from a 15A circuit breaker in position F30 inside the Front Distribution Panel (FDP). The FDP is inside the black plastic box that itself is inside the front-most driver-side exterior storage compartment.

F30 is energized through relay RL5, also on the FDP, so it only gets power when the ignition is on.
I ran in to that trying to power my wireless brake controller, no hot wire! I just tapped in to a hot wire in the engine bay & pull the fuse when not in use. Does the F30 have a wire that goes to the engine bay? I couldn't find one that worked off the ignition.
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