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01-14-2020, 03:19 PM
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I messed up.
Hey all, I have a 2006 Monaco Knight and when installing my traveler Sat dish, I drilled through the roof and plastic box inside the cabinet to the right of the TV to run the cables to the controller and dish receiver and I didn’t know there were wires running across the top of the plastic box. 😢
I evidently cut the wires to the radio bedroom and the right side main area speakers and the wires to the front and rear ICC lights. 😞
Can that cabinet and plastic box be disassembled so I can reach and splice the wires? If so, how does it come apart without damaging it or something else. Is there another option? I can remove the TV to access the left side where the wires enter and I can pull the speaker above the door to access the right side compartment, so it’s difficult, but not impossible. I’d rather just just pull the cabinet, but I understand that stupid people can’t be choosy. 😡
Thanks, Jerry
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01-14-2020, 03:27 PM
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Monaco had good cabinet makers and the design incorporated the use of lots of hidden pocket screws. Good news is once you figure out how the puzzle was put together you'll be able to take it apart and put it back together and in the end never know you did it.
You will probably have to take out the cabinets going toward the rear first.
Some of the cabinets will have false sides and bottoms to access the pocket screws.
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2002 Monaco Windsor 38 PKD Cummins ISC 350 8.3L
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01-14-2020, 07:11 PM
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What is the plastic box , is it part of the cabinet ?
Jim is right , the cabinets can all be disassembled or at least the Windsor's can .
I removed the TV and it's cabinet to make the cabinet smaller and install a flat screen.
There is a big opening with the TV removed and a huge hole with the cabinet removed
I would start with the TV . Depending on how far over you cut the wires you may be
able to repair them through the big TV opening .
Ray D
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01-14-2020, 08:20 PM
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You will need a selection of square drive bits and many of the screws will be countersunk at an angle into the wood.
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01-15-2020, 12:40 PM
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Welcome to the forum and I bet you learned something.
If you post some pictures you will get more responses. There is an amazing talent pool here as you are finding.
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01-15-2020, 02:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vito.a
You will need a selection of square drive bits and many of the screws will be countersunk at an angle into the wood.
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The selection needs to be different lengths to accommodate clearance issues. The square bit itself should be a #2. I use a cheap right-angle reversible drill motor to get into narrow cabinets.
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01-16-2020, 06:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodekyll
The selection needs to be different lengths to accommodate clearance issues. The square bit itself should be a #2. I use a cheap right-angle reversible drill motor to get into narrow cabinets.
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These should be a good length to have on hand. You need this type of fixed bit as the adapters that let you install different bits usually have a clearance problem in the pocket holes.
https://tinyurl.com/ufjdgsl
Bob
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01-16-2020, 06:48 AM
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I hope you can fix it before your wife finds out!!
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01-16-2020, 10:29 AM
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Pictures
Here are a couple pics of the cabinets and my wife already knows. 😔
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01-16-2020, 08:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JerKat2
Here are a couple pics of the cabinets and my wife already knows. ��
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I don't see a plastic box so not sure what that is. I would start by taking the door off the hinges, remove all the electronics and reach around inside trying to find those countersunk screws mentioned earlier. You might be able to get the face frame off so you can get better access inside for the repairs.
Monaco did some creative things back then. You may have to remove the tv as well to access any screws that are holding the frame. You may also have reach inside the cabinet to the right and feel for any screws in there that they used to tie the whole assembly together. It's really trial and error.
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01-17-2020, 06:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JerKat2
Here are a couple pics of the cabinets and my wife already knows. 😔
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Our 2006 Diplomat is very similar to your coach. One thing you might try is to remove the speaker and the A-pillar panel between the windshield and the door. There are quite a few wires running behind the A-pillar and you can reach in thru the speaker opening and get to some wires. Also take out the television. If you can find the wires that were cut you might be able to pull in new lengths of wire on either side of the cuts and splice around the cuts. Another thought is to use a 3 inch hole saw and cut a large hole in the side of the plastic enclosure on the television side. You can then reach your hand thru the hole and fish for the wires. I cut a hole in that same location to help fish some cable from one side to the other.
For future reference a lot of cables and wires can be reached by taking out the speaker on the driver's side. I have lost count of how many times I have had that speaker and the left A-pillar out to fish wires and cables.
Bob
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01-17-2020, 08:45 AM
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Bob , I don't have plastic boxes up there in my Windsor .
Do you guys have plastic boxes as inside compartments ?
Will they come out ?
If I faced JerKat2's problem I think I would just cut a good sized
opening in the ceiling of the compartment , make my repairs and
cover it with thin plywood .
I have seen very thin material at Lowes in the cabinet area
the panels are used as end panels for cabinets .
Ray 03 Windsor
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01-18-2020, 08:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RamiDav
Bob , I don't have plastic boxes up there in my Windsor .
Do you guys have plastic boxes as inside compartments ?
Will they come out ?
If I faced JerKat2's problem I think I would just cut a good sized
opening in the ceiling of the compartment , make my repairs and
cover it with thin plywood .
I have seen very thin material at Lowes in the cabinet area
the panels are used as end panels for cabinets .
Ray 03 Windsor
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Ray,
You are further up the food chain and have all wood cabinets in your coach. The Diplomat and below has wood for the cabinet doors and drawers but a lot of the cabinet frames are fake wood covered with a material that looks like wood. And yes the compartment the OP is referring to has a black plastic insert. I ordered some sheets of black ABS plastic from Amazon to make covers for holes that I have made from time to time.
https://tinyurl.com/qpj5qub
Bob
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01-18-2020, 08:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nodine
Ray,
You are further up the food chain and have all wood cabinets in your coach. The Diplomat and below has wood for the cabinet doors and drawers but a lot of the cabinet frames are fake wood covered with a material that looks like wood. And yes the compartment the OP is referring to has a black plastic insert. I ordered some sheets of black ABS plastic from Amazon to make covers for holes that I have made from time to time.
https://tinyurl.com/qpj5qub
Bob
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Thanks Bob
That clears things up some Can those inserts be removed out the front ?
If they can it would sure make repairs easier Even if they can't be removed
he could cut the top out of the compartment and use your plastic to make
a new ceiling .
Ray
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