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Old 01-24-2008, 10:02 AM   #29
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I contacted King Domes to see what they were going to do about the dishes we own now.....
OK here is the reply....

"Mr. Beck,
Currently, all dome-covered, mobile satellite systems are designed to receive Ku Band satellite signals. DIRECTV is adding programming form the Ka Band satellites at the 99 and 103 positions. No current dome-covered satellite system (any manufacturer) is compatible with these Ka Band satellites. Current systems will not be upgradable. Anyone with a dome-covered satellite system (any manufacturer) will have to purchase a new system.

We are working on a solution but at this time have no date by which it will be ready.

That said, our current DVB systems (9704 Series, 9754 Series and 9762 "Trac-King" Series) work with DIRECTV, DISH 500, DISH 1000 (HD programming) and ExpressVu without any additional hardware.

Please contact me with further questions.
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:02 AM   #30
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GoneFishin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> In the near future (6-12 months is the current best guess but maybe 2 years) you will only need a 3 head dish that will pick up the 101 KU band and the 99 and 103 KA band satellites. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My guess is that the 3 LNB we currently have will not be the same 3 head dish needed 2 years from now. ??

Has anyone had experience with reducing their service from HD to regular non-HD programming and had to agree to a new 2 year committment? We are going to do so since the MH does not have HD yet.

DTV has a Customer Retention Department and it is our past experience that they will work with you and offer discounts in order to keep you as a customer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just went the other way with them, The free upgrade to HD. Can't use it in the coach but my second set reciever works great with the new 5 L&B dish and the motorhome dish. They even offered the 1 year discount after I mentioned the Dish System offer, It is a lot easier to stay than switch again. I have done that once already.
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Old 01-26-2008, 03:46 AM   #31
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Okay, so if they have DTV has a Customer Retention Department how do we contact them? Is there an extension # to this department? Or, do all I need to do is threaten to quit my DTV account?
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:57 PM   #32
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Out of this discussion I got that all owners presently owning a Sat on thier unit will at least not work with Direct TV. So sounds like many will be switching to Dish Network. Unless they change to new Sat's also. Is this safe to say?
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Old 01-27-2008, 04:01 PM   #33
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Out of this discussion I got that all owners presently owning a Sat on thier unit will at least not work with Direct TV. So sounds like many will be switching to Dish Network. Unless they change to new Sat's also. Is this safe to say? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ONLY HD is affected.

If you are NOT going HD, then your present setup will continue to work.
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That is an important clarification to make. We are only talking about those folks who want to upgrade(?) to HD. The current programming that you are receiving from DirecTV should be available with the same antenna and hardware for years to come.
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I'm glad to read the clarification. I was getting a little hot under the collar thinking I was going to have to be changing all of my equipment at home and the rv. Thanks.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:20 AM   #37
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Well, I dropped my HD programming and while there I noticed they were charging me access fees for a receiver that hasn't been used in a long time, so there's more savings (hey, it's not much, but does cover a gallon of fuel).
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Old 02-10-2008, 04:32 PM   #38
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Here's my story.

I've had HD Directv with the triple LNB dish and 2 HD receivers since they first became available. I had a spare triple LNB dish that I used on a tripod for the motorhome. I also have the Directv RV service.

I called (early December) customer service and asked to speak with a customer retention specialist. They offered 2 HD receivers and a 5 LNB antenna delivered and installed for $20.00.

I asked for a second 5 LNB dish for the tripod and a HD DVR receiver instead of a second standard HD receiver.

They agreed except they would charge me another $100.00 for the HD DVR. They then said they would wave the $10.00 monthly HD fee for 12 months.

I accepted this offer.

BTW Winegard has started shipping a 5 LNB RV antenna. It's not in a radome,too large, it's the same large reflector and 5 LNB's that is used on my house. It auto seeks and self adjust's it's azimuth, elevation and skew.

List price seems to be around $2000. I found one advertised for $1600 including taxes (none) and shipping. I'll post if this deal works out.
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Be sure that before you make a purchase of an automatic 5-head LNB dish that you also take a look at the MotoSAT HD-SL5 antenna. If they performed exactly the same, take a look at the mounting plates and decide which one you think will hold up to a good wind. The Slimline dish is a .70 meter dish. The Hughes internet dish is a .74 meter dish. That's a big dish with a very high wind loading.
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These are my thoughts on this issue----

I've had Direct TV for over 10 years-- long before I had a motorhome. The bride and I love it. I have the premium package with 4 receivers. Since we enjoy the HD picture so much more-- it is so intense-- we accept the additional cost without batting an eye. It is a similiar experience to when I bought my first color TV.

Unfortunely, I can't use the HD satellite receiver in the front TV of my rig because my KVH domed antenna is "married" to the old RCA receiver. When a suitable 5 LNB, domed antenna is available, I will install it. I also remember the old "C" band-- hugh-- antennas at homes around the country. Next time I looked around, homes were putting up 18" Direct TV antennas. Right now I will carry a second HD receiver in the front of the rig to capture the HD programing when we get to our summer location where a 5 LNB antenna is permanetly installed. The winegard crank-up antenna gives me outstanding HD reception as I travel enroute to my seasonal "parking places".

At my home the 5 LNB antenna looks like it only has 3 LNB's-- but in reality it has 5 housed in the three unit configuration--- so I'm told by the "Techs".

I have installed 2 new LCD HD TV's in my rig.

I also have had loss of signal after non-use for a period of time, but it has never bothered me because a simple 2-3 minute call re-establishes the service. I think you could call Direct TV and put your receivers on vacation status for up to 6 months (I believe) and escape the $4.95 monthly fee.

Good luck with your TV issues
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">When a suitable 5 LNB, domed antenna is available, I will install it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It is important that you understand that this will never happen. If you want a 5 head antenna on your RV it will not be under a dome.
There is a chance that one of the dome manufacturers may be able to adapt the "Cobra" LNB to work under a dome in the future. The Cobra LNB is the one you see on your home or tripod dish with a hood over it an it contains the 99(KA), 101(KU) and 103(KA) LNB's. At some point in DTV's future (within 2 years) the majority of all DTV programming will be on these 3 satellites.
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Bill,

I asked you about this in another post, but you gave a little more detail here. I'm looking at buying either a MotoSat HD-SL5 or the one from wineguard.

You mention the wind as a factor, and in looking at the units it appears the wineguard units base is about 25" round, where the MotoSat is about half that and then mounted on the plate of the same width.

I guess if the wind was blowing directly out of the north, the MotoSat would possibly be more secure, but given that wind always comes from different directions, the Winegard would seem more stable.

Also, in talking to them, they mentioned they have all metal gears, where it appears the MotoSat is still using the chain gear system that they used in previous models.

Their literature says 50 MPH deployed and 150 MPH stowed, and MotoSat's says 140 MPH stowed, doesn't list deployed.

I'm new here, but I realize you are somehow affiliated with MotoSat, but have you dealt with the wineguard system at all??? I just am curious what you are basing the information on, as i don't want to make the wrong choice (an expensive one!! ...).
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