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01-15-2020, 08:46 PM
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Level
Our Windsor has only air levers, I have to run the engine to add air to level the mh. Is there an add on to manually lever the mh, of jacks that can be added?
Thanks.
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2005 Monaco Windsor, 40 ft single axle.
TRW GB, Watts front and watts x braces rear.
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01-15-2020, 09:15 PM
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Surprised there isn't a remote 12v compressor? Not sure of your year, passengers side, up front of steer axle is where some are located.
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01-16-2020, 08:38 AM
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You have a 12v compressor that is supposed to keep you level when you select
auto level and leave it on auto .
As Captjake said the compressor is mounted just behind the front axel up high .
Mine has an inline fuse near the compressor , that's where I would look 1st .
Ray 03 Windsor
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01-16-2020, 11:35 AM
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I assume you have an HWH air leveling system?
It uses a Thomas 12v air compressor to add air when parked. The Thomas pump is the quietest available but has an open case and is susceptible to dirt getting inside and fouling the motor. On your system the pump is probably up front. There will be an inline fuse that usually blows when it gets full of dirt.
Picture in post #20.
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f115/repl...-369684-2.html
You can remove and rebuild the pump or replace it.
Rebuild kit:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-THO...EAAOSwuMZZFK3G
New compressor:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-THOMAS-...cAAOSww9xZFKxR
Many folks make a cover to try and keep the dirt out. Some also replace it with another brand compressor, but the other choices are very noisy. VIAIR makes a commercial compressor that is sealed and produces almost double the air output.
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01-16-2020, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vito.a
I assume you have an HWH air leveling system?
It uses a Thomas 12v air compressor to add air when parked. The Thomas pump is the quietest available but has an open case and is susceptible to dirt getting inside and fouling the motor. On your system the pump is probably up front. There will be an inline fuse that usually blows when it gets full of dirt.
Picture in post #20.
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f115/repl...-369684-2.html
You can remove and rebuild the pump or replace it.
Rebuild kit:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-THO...EAAOSwuMZZFK3G
New compressor:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-THOMAS-...cAAOSww9xZFKxR
Many folks make a cover to try and keep the dirt out. Some also replace it with another brand compressor, but the other choices are very noisy. VIAIR makes a commercial compressor that is sealed and produces almost double the air output.
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I believe the 05 windsor has the firestone leveling system. 06 they changed to the valid. Either way, there should be a 12 volt compressor over the front axle somewhere.
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01-17-2020, 09:07 AM
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I have a Firestone system. The book says you have to run the engine, that's why I was wondering if anyone had installed an electric compressor to keep the motorhome level without have to start the engine in the middle of an RV park.
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2005 Monaco Windsor, 40 ft single axle.
TRW GB, Watts front and watts x braces rear.
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01-17-2020, 09:21 AM
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On ours, you have to have the key in the run or ignition position in order to change the system from travel to auto or manual.
Once changed to the setting you want, the system uses the small electric compressor to level and maintain it.
We also have the Firestone system.
Out compressor is on passengers side, forward of steer axle and forward or entry steps.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mydogmax
I have a Firestone system. The book says you have to run the engine, that's why I was wondering if anyone had installed an electric compressor to keep the motorhome level without have to start the engine in the middle of an RV park.
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01-17-2020, 12:02 PM
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I see no reason why you couldn't install an elect compressor .
Some owners have moved their comp into a compartment out of the weather .
Mounting it there should make the job easier .
Before doing anything I would look for a compressor in spite of what the manual said
Ray 03 Windsor
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01-17-2020, 12:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mydogmax
I have a Firestone system. The book says you have to run the engine, that's why I was wondering if anyone had installed an electric compressor to keep the motorhome level without have to start the engine in the middle of an RV park.
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Like all the others have said, you should already have a electric compressor that keeps your coach level with the engine off.
You could have a blown fuse, or possibly the compressor has failed.
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01-17-2020, 04:35 PM
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Thanks for the links Vito!
On my ever growing list to fix, my inop Thomas pump
Mine is mounted above the drive axle and a bear to get to with the passenger side wheels installed. If I remove the wheels, piece of cake to get to.
I crawl under and look at it all the time. Reach up there and reconsider if it is worth it or not. I don't use auto level much so it is a sort of should fix it and not a I need to fix project .
My Signature Thomas pump was totally locked up and depressingly degraded so I assume that is what is waiting for me inside this one
Windecker
Quote:
Originally Posted by vito.a
I assume you have an HWH air leveling system?
It uses a Thomas 12v air compressor to add air when parked. The Thomas pump is the quietest available but has an open case and is susceptible to dirt getting inside and fouling the motor. On your system the pump is probably up front. There will be an inline fuse that usually blows when it gets full of dirt.
Picture in post #20.
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f115/repl...-369684-2.html
You can remove and rebuild the pump or replace it.
Rebuild kit:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-THO...EAAOSwuMZZFK3G
New compressor:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-THOMAS-...cAAOSww9xZFKxR
Many folks make a cover to try and keep the dirt out. Some also replace it with another brand compressor, but the other choices are very noisy. VIAIR makes a commercial compressor that is sealed and produces almost double the air output.
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01-18-2020, 07:38 AM
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Our firestone controller has one rocker switch for low and high position, a rocker on/off switch and a push button for horizontal leveling.
It has no leveling jacks, and no aux. pump to be found. How they built anything like this I don't know.
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2005 Monaco Windsor, 40 ft single axle.
TRW GB, Watts front and watts x braces rear.
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01-20-2020, 05:57 PM
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We have the Valid air only system with a 12v dc pump, which I replaced with a Firestone pump. First thing I would do is fix your leaks so you don't need the aux pump. I know it's a pain/expensive. We stay level for weeks, however, I put a switch in the cockpit to control power to the pump so it doesn't run in the middle of the night. For whatever reason which I am yet to locate, the coach has not moved but the air tank has dropped to the point where the pressure switch is calling for power. The reason for the switch, I never turn it on, no need to, no leaks and coach stays level. Good luck.
Roadmiester
09 Dynasty Regal IV
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