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Old 05-20-2013, 07:43 AM   #1
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Monaco full wall slide weight

Got to thinking about the full wall slide (SFS) and the weight associated to that side of the coach. Has anyone weighed their coach with a full slide and does have it have an uneven amount of weight left to right. I have yet to have mine weighed. I would expect there is some difference but is it a large difference? Thanks
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Weight could only be computed by removing the slide and weighing the coach. Or some merged as that. What you can compute and what I think you are asking about is the center of gravity. As you open the slide the center of gravity will shift towards that slide. Being longer and where it is located will have an affect on the COG but I would imagine that the manufactures have taken those shifts into account as we don't see a lot of units turned over and laying on their sides!
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weighing

I am interested in the axle weight at each wheel not the center of gravity.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:08 PM   #4
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dbray,
We have the sister coach to yours - HR Vacationer with a full wall slide - our coach is 31 feet overall. We have not had our coach weighed. That said, in addition I might add, we do not carry much in the way of cargo and 'stuff'! BTW - we also tow a Mini Cooper!
Our full wall slide has the sofa, free standing dinette table and the bedroom storage closets. The other side of the coach has the galley, and bath - Is this your floorplan as well?
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dbray- getting individual wheel weights is easy. Call around to places that have scales and let them know you have an RV, need to find individual wheel weights, and you don't need a weight certificate. You have to take 4 weights. First, front axle on scale, rear & front (whole coach) on scale; you subtract to get rear axle. Then, and this is where the facility needs to be one that can accommodate, you drive onto the the scale w/only 1/2 the coach so 1 front wheel is on scale, record the weight, then both wheels on that side; you subtract to get rear wheel. Then you subtract the two individual weights from their respective axle weights.

You only need a scale that has sufficient off-scale lane width to one side to get one side off the scale; the coach can be mostly on the scale for the second pass. We use a scale in Chula Vista that displays the weight regardless of whether the operator is present or recording the weight for a certificate. The operator there doesn't charge us for a drive-thru. There is a large display on the wall we can read ourselves. Easy peasy. We fill up there when we pass by as well as they are a fuel stop.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:19 AM   #6
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Monaco weight

4Fun and Engineer Mike,
Thank you for your posts. 4Fun, yes it is the same floor plan as your Vacationer. We have exchanged posts in the past. I hope to get our Monarch weighed in the future, in the mean time, as I view it from the rear in my driveway, it looks like it leans slightly to the left. Could be my imagination.
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slode weight

I just bought my new to me 99 Windsor 34 with a big slide. The old owner did a lot of work with just that question, he did it to get tires right. So on this coach weight is 29860 empty left rear 10,000 x 2, 90 psi tires left front 5500, 90 psi right front 5300, 86 psi right rear 9060x2 83psi this is on Goodyear 275/80/22.5.
The coach drives and handles wonderfully I wont change a thing. The only thing I don't like is he put the powder balancing in the tires
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Don't want to ask a dumb question but what is this powder balancing that you speak of?
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balancing tires

There is a camp who believe you can get good balance on tires by using or granules to balance tires. I think personal the drawbacks are greater than any reward as there seams to be a problem with the tires holding air without special valves and then I think its questionable. I also believe that most tire problems come from under inflation, im not trying to steal this thread
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No stealing here. Thank you for pointing it out. I am looking at it on google. Thanks for sharing!
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"Equal" power has a bad history. It clumps, clogs, etc.

Dynabeads ( Tire Balancing Products ) has a good history and is being used successfully by a decent number or RV'ers.

It is important to get the correct beads for the size tire.
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"Equal" power has a bad history. It clumps, clogs, etc.

Dynabeads ( Tire Balancing Products ) has a good history and is being used successfully by a decent number or RV'ers.

It is important to get the correct beads for the size tire.
I have been using dynabeads about a year now and am happy with them.
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not convinced

Thank you, I think I'll stick with spin balance an not worry about valves ,clumping or any of the other things with that technology.
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as I view it from the rear in my driveway, it looks like it leans slightly to the left. Could be my imagination.

DBRay - we have a 2009 33 SFS which has a similar floorplan to yours except it's longer and the refrigerator is also in the slide (even more weight). We have also noticed a slight lean to the left/drivers side since the day we bought it. We have had the whole coach weighed but never the front/back and side to side. Our whole coach was safely under the weight limits and we're religious about tire pressures so we hope we are safe.

This discussion string is a reminder that we probably should get the four-corner weighing, and also probably replace our tires sooner rather than later.
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