Monarch 33PBD Questions - Hurricane 31H Trade In.

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We are planning on trading our Hurricane 31H in on a Monaco Monarch SVE 33PBD or a Itasca Sunova 34A.

Seems like a great upgrade from my Hurricane.

Should I go V10 or Workhorse W22? The salesman said the W22 gets 1-2 mpg more then the V10. I'm also a Chevy fan so I wonder if it's worth the extra money.

Can I run both AC's off the Onan 4000 Gen?

We love the storage, the floorplan and the wheels. We are going to test drive the Monaco tomorrow morning.

One more question, can you expect a dealer to take 20% off MSRP if they are paying $78,000 for a 2007 Hurricane 31H?

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We are planning on trading our Hurricane 31H in on a Monaco Monarch SVE 33PBD or a Itasca Sunova 34A.

Seems like a great upgrade from my Hurricane.

Should I go V10 or Workhorse W22? The salesman said the W22 gets 1-2 mpg more then the V10. I'm also a Chevy fan so I wonder if it's worth the extra money.

Can I run both AC's off the Onan 4000 Gen?

We love the storage, the floorplan and the wheels. We are going to test drive the Monaco tomorrow morning.

One more question, can you expect a dealer to take 20% off MSRP if they are paying $78,000 for a 2007 Hurricane 31H?

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Should I purchase the Scotch Guard / Wax deal they offer? They claim I will not have to wax my Monaco ever.

How about the protection that they offer for the winshield that they claim will strenghten it by 10 times.

These 2 items are $3575.

[TXiceman]

Fabric and paint protectors are great money makers for the dealers and that is all. Read the fine print and you will see that on the exterior you will be required to treat the exterior with their product once or twice a year to keep the so called "warranty" in effect.

As for the Scotch Guard, you can buy the stuff and treat the fabrics yourself much cheaper.

For $3575.00 you can get a lot of cleaning and wax jobs done over the years.

Ken

[Road Dog]

Rule #1-Never believe what a salesman tells you.
Rule #2-Never forget Rule #1

[Tom N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brandon Cramer:
We are planning on trading our Hurricane 31H in on a Monaco Monarch SVE 33PBD or a Itasca Sunova 34A.

Seems like a great upgrade from my Hurricane.

Should I go V10 or Workhorse W22? The salesman said the W22 gets 1-2 mpg more then the V10. I'm also a Chevy fan so I wonder if it's worth the extra money.

Can I run both AC's off the Onan 4000 Gen?

We love the storage, the floorplan and the wheels. We are going to test drive the Monaco tomorrow morning.

One more question, can you expect a dealer to take 20% off MSRP if they are paying $78,000 for a 2007 Hurricane 31H? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't let the $78k for you used coach cloud your eyes. You're only getting wholsale for it. Get the wholesale value of your coach from the dealer's NADA book or at your bank. That is what it is worth to a dealer. Take 30% off the MSRP of the new coach. Subtract the wholesale value of your trade and make that your offer. Don't settle for less the 28% off MSRP minus wholesale for your trade.

After you arrive at, what you consider, a fair price tell them you'll do the deal if they through in the scotchgaurd/wax and the windshied treatment for FREE. Actually, they're worth nothing. Or you can forget the wax and windshield treatment and tell them you want an extended warranty to seal the deal.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tom N:

Don't let the $78k for you used coach cloud your eyes. You're only getting wholsale for it. Get the wholesale value of your coach from the dealer's NADA book or at your bank. That is what it is worth to a dealer. Take 30% off the MSRP of the new coach. Subtract the wholesale value of your trade and make that your offer. Don't settle for less the 28% off MSRP minus wholesale for your trade.

After you arrive at, what you consider, a fair price tell them you'll do the deal if they through in the scotchgaurd/wax and the windshied treatment for FREE. Actually, they're worth nothing. Or you can forget the wax and windshield treatment and tell them you want an extended warranty to seal the deal. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

NADA only has 2006 models. For the 2006 on NADA the low retail is $54,450 and the average retail is $65,600. So I would assume that my wholesale value would be what $70,000?

So what your saying is that on this coach that they want $104,000 for I can go in there tomorrow and say I want $70,000 for my Hurricane ($8000 less than they offered for trade)and I want 30% off the Monaco?

I just want to make sure I have the right idea.

I will pass on the waxing and the windshield deal!

What about the workhorse? Is it worth the additional $6,000-$10,000 for it?

Thanks Tom!

Brandon

[Tom N]

Your Hurricane is worth less than $50,000 wholesale.

If the coach you want to purchase lists for $104,000MSRP then 30% off brings it down to about $73,000. Subtract the wholesale value of your trade in (a dealer never buys for more than wholesale). $73,000-$50,000 equals $23,000. $23,000 is the starting negotiating figure.

IMHO, the Ford chassis is fine for a &lt;35' coach although I would want the Ford chassis with the 22.5" tires. Big gas coaches need the W24 or W25.5 Workhorse chassis.

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That must be why I had trouble getting them to come down in price. We ended up with a Itasca Sunova 34A. I liked the Monaco Monarch 33PBD but there were some things inside that seemed to be cheaply made. I hate the way the dog house looks. To me it looks like they just slapped a piece of carpet on there and they were done.

I had to give up the tires, the side storage, the tilting backup camera, the pull out sofa bed, but it's hard to beat the space on the Itasca Sunova 34A. There is just so much room with that 3rd slide out in the kitchen. It's amazing. If I wouldn't have gone in the Itasca I would have boughten then Monaco.

We ended up getting $60k for our Hurricrap and 15% off the Itasca. We also saved $1000 on the warranty. Is that good? If it's not I don't know how I could have gotten anymore from them.

Of course I could have used the approach of saying I guess if you can't get me 30% then I'm walking. (I'm too desperate to get rid of the Hurricrap to do that.) I know they were glad to see me leave. I felt this was one of my best deals I have ever made.

Thoughts?