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11-29-2008, 08:08 AM
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I have noticed on the black paint portion of our 05 that there are little cracks in the paint and right thru the clear coat everywhere. No where else, no other color is involved. I wnder if the fact that the black paint will absorbe the heat more and therefor be much hotter is the problem. Look at the black paint portion of your coach (if you have black) and see if your coach is experiencing the same thing.
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2017 Newmar Dutch Star 4369. Spartan chassis w/full disc brakes. 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee toad
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11-29-2008, 08:08 AM
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I have noticed on the black paint portion of our 05 that there are little cracks in the paint and right thru the clear coat everywhere. No where else, no other color is involved. I wnder if the fact that the black paint will absorbe the heat more and therefor be much hotter is the problem. Look at the black paint portion of your coach (if you have black) and see if your coach is experiencing the same thing.
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Ross Starkenburg
2017 Newmar Dutch Star 4369. Spartan chassis w/full disc brakes. 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee toad
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11-29-2008, 05:37 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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So some searches on paint problems. I think this issue has come up before.
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2007 Diplomat 40' SFT
2013 Honda CR-V "More is the enemy of enough."
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11-29-2008, 05:39 PM
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Luke and Kathy & Bootsie kitty, Morro Bay,CA
2007 Diplomat 40' SFT
2013 Honda CR-V "More is the enemy of enough."
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11-29-2008, 06:28 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: West Bragg Creek, Alberta
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Don't feel too bad Stretch, my new unit came with the complete "signature" human palm print embedded into the paint on the rear bumper. It's in for paint right now to repair, I just can't believe they let it go out like that.
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11-30-2008, 07:39 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Virtually all of the Monaco product built during a certain period (I don't have that info) has this problem. It is a result of the fiberglass used in the sidewalls. Monaco was repainting some coaches but that proved unsatisfactory because the problem recurred. The only way to "fix" it is to reskin the coach. Monaco was addressing this in coaches still in warranty but the problem usually doesn't show up in the first year. It was a hot topic when we were in the Monaco service facility in Oregon earlier this year. I have the problem on my coach and the best they would do was offer a discount certificate on a new Monaco to defray the loss of trade-in value. I havn't checked recently to see if they are still doing this. With conditions in the industry as depressed as they are I would be surprised to see much goodwill work being done.
Ron
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12-01-2008, 07:13 AM
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Location: Santa Clarita, California
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This is not just a Monaco problem. All major coach manufacturers have had similar problems with dark colored paint areas for some years. I was shown a letter by a 2006 Country Coach owner that was from the factory denying a claim of responsibility for his paint problem, it went something like this: All major manufacturers have experienced problems with fiberglass supplied by Owens-Corning wherein the fiberglass is releasing a gas when subject to heat. This causes "checking" (angular bubble like bumps) in the paint as well as cracking. We along with the other manufacturers have a lawsuit against Owns-Corning and we will apprise you of any settlement. Needless to say he was not very happy with Country Coach as he had paid over $400,000 for his coach 2 years earlier. I know this does not solve your problem, but may offer some insight into the issue. I would suggest you search the IRV2 website for paint problems to gain additional insight. As for me personally, I hope Monaco or Owens-Corning was able to correct the manufacturing process for I have a 2009 Camelot with a large area of the coach painted black.
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12-03-2008, 07:03 PM
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Thanks for all the enlightening info. Now I know it is not just our coach. Will keep wax on it and hope for the best
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