Paint Problems with 01-04?

[Dan C]

A google search of "Black Wax" reveals several options. DR4Film, can you be more specific as to which black wax is the one that hides the cracks on dark paint?
Thanks, Dan C

[GPLANDROVER]

I have been looking on the forum for any ideas short of reskinning my coach for the paint checking problem and have not seen any other permanent solutions.
Has anyone heard of sanding down to the fiberglass and gelcoating the area as a solution?

With the thousands of units with this problem has there ever been a lawsuit against the fiberglass mfg?

Thanks

[Pusherpilot]

Originally Posted by GPLANDROVER

I have been looking on the forum for any ideas short of reskinning my coach for the paint checking problem and have not seen any other permanent solutions.
Has anyone heard of sanding down to the fiberglass and gelcoating the area as a solution?

With the thousands of units with this problem has there ever been a lawsuit against the fiberglass mfg?

Thanks

Reskinning is the only fix I've heard of. Monaco repainted a few but the problem simply came back. Monaco also reskinned a few coachs but when the magnitude of the problem became apparent they stopped doing it unless it was under the one year warranty. The lore is that Monaco did get a settlement from the fiberglass mfgr (Owens-Corning I think) but it was never passed thru to the owners.
The other number going around is that it can cost upwards of $50-$60k to reshin and repaint. Mine has the problem but unless I'm getting a LOT of help financially from somewhere it ain't happening on mine!!

The problem isn't limited to Monaco, other mfgrs had the problem too but as I hear it they stepped up and did right by the customers.

I'm sure there are inaccuracies in my account and if there are others with better info please let us know. There's been so much "folklore" and hearsay going around it's difficult to seperate fact from fantasy here.
Ron

[Norm4015]

Originally Posted by GPLANDROVER

With the thousands of units with this problem has there ever been a lawsuit against the fiberglass mfg?

Thanks

The manufacturer of most of the bad fiberglass was Owings-Corning and they went bankrupt.

[Dan C]

Does anyone know for sure if Monaco received a settlement from Owens Corning?
It's been rumored that they did, but I can't find any documentation. It's public record that Country Coach & Coachman were paid by Owens Corning before they filed for bankruptcy. Not that it will do any good, but I sure would like to know if Monaco received any compensation for the defective fiberglass they were using.

[Dr4Film]

Originally Posted by NMBeemercouple

Dr4Film,

Is this what you are using?

Welcome to Black Wax, Ltd.

Nope, the Black Wax that has been used on my coach is the Black Velvet Carnauba Wax found here.

Black Velvet Carnauba Wax

Hoep this helps!

Dr4Film ----- Richard.

[father2mykid]

Originally Posted by Norm4015

The manufacturer of most of the bad fiberglass was Owings-Corning and they went bankrupt.

Owens-Corning has NOT gone or filed for bankruptcy protection. I spoke with a rep from Country Coach (the new version) and confirmed this last week.

Has anybody discussed this issue with an attorney?

[Norm4015]

Originally Posted by father2mykid

Owens-Corning has NOT gone or filed for bankruptcy protection. I spoke with a rep from Country Coach (the new version) and confirmed this last week.

Has anybody discussed this issue with an attorney?

Do a Google search on "Ownes Corning Bankruptcy" and you will get thousands of hits. A few years ago they filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy and after being in court a few years a judge allowed them to reorganize and exit bankruptcy. The bankruptcy allowed them to set aside a certain amount of money for claims and once the payouts were gone there is no money left for claims.

Remember the old GM filed for bankrupcy and emerged a new and basically debt free company. Same with Owens Corning and according to federal courts they can not be sued under terms of the old company.