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Old 06-28-2011, 07:25 PM   #1
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Remove the Salesman switch ability

I have locater the Solenoid to the Salesman function! I am told to remove and tape off each wire on the small posts. I am told to connect the 2 wires of each larger posts! Problem is, there are two wires on each post! Wich ones do I put together and what about the other two? Any help will be appreciated! Allegro5 1996 Dynasty
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:42 PM   #2
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The 2 small wires are + and - 12VDC and are used to swap the solenoid between 12V ON and 12V Off. The big connectors on the solenoid are your input (house battery and converter) are on one side and the output (12V fuse block and refrig) on the other side. These big connector inputs and outputs go to the same post to jumper them together thus bypassing the solenoid. P.S. Just replace the solenoid ($50 on e-bay). I find the battery disconnect switch useful for troubleshooting and when storing the RV when in for repairs or winter.
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Hi Tom, I have had some recomendations to just bypass the Salesmen! The real question is, do I connect all the wires together, that are on both larger post, or just some? Which ones? Thanks again, Allegro5
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Allegro5,

Yes, to bypass the Salesman Solenoid relay, you remove the two large RED cables from one side and attach then to the post on the other side. If there is not enough room on the post to allow you to do that, then remove all four RED cables and using a large bolt, washers and nut, clamp them all together. I would also use large shrink-wrap to seal the connection and then use more black electrical tape to finish off the modification. My solenoid only has two RED cables, photo attached, so the post on one side was able to accommodate the cables.

Most people could care less about having this useless device available as more than likely the replacement will fail also eventually. I have had mine bypassed for 7 years. I don't have to worry anymore about losing 12 volt power to my coach at the most inconvenient time.
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Allegro5,
I have to ask who recommended the removal of the solenoid(salesman switch) and why????
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What's a salesman switch?
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What's a salesman switch?
Thank you. I was embarrassed to ask. I'm guessing it is a switch that doubles the gas mileage lol.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:00 AM   #8
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On Monaco coaches, just inside the door is a switch that controls the power to all interior lights. You can turn on every light in the coach, and as you leave, turn off this switch.

It became known as the salesman switch because it was quite common for salesmen to set up the lights so that with a flick of this one switch, all the lights in the coach would turn on.

Unfortunately, the relay that the switch controls is known for failing. Since most of us don't care whether all the lights turn on at once, it has become standard practice to simply bypass the relay.

Come to think of it, I still have to do that.
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Thank you. I was embarrassed to ask. I'm guessing it is a switch that doubles the gas mileage lol.
I installed one of those switches that doubles my MPG in my coach right after I bought it.

I can tell you exactly how to do it yourself. Provide me with your PM and a check in the amount of $100, your payback on this investment will be immediate.

ROTFLMAO

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Thanks Guys! I think I will just tape the door switch, as unwittingly they can be triped and you wonder wher the lights went! allegro5
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I am now told to remove the wires on the small posts and tape the ends seperatly. Then make a short battery cable to go from one side of the two large posts to the other! My solenoid has the 4 posts and no red wires! Just like the old Fords had to the starters! ( For all us oldsters! allegro5
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I installed one of those switches that doubles my MPG in my coach right after I bought it.

I can tell you exactly how to do it yourself. Provide me with your PM and a check in the amount of $100, your payback on this investment will be immediate.

ROTFLMAO

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does it help with the toad attached,how do i wire it for more grey tank capacity
do i need a 50 to 30 amp adaptor
to whom do i make the check to
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I believe the switch does have a good use. However for a backup if necessary I added a bypass switch. Pics in Logthumpers Photos below in "Makeing it ours" Page 6.
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Hi Members, If you have a rig with a solenoid like the old Fords had. and you know it stays hot and draws juice! If someone accidently bumps of throws the Salesmen switch at the door and you dont use it enough to keep it in mind, you could have a heck of a time finding what happened to your lights! The device can be a problem in other ways too. The best way to make it safer and end the problem stoped, as told to me by the best athority I know of, Bill D.. Locate the Solenoid and looking down from the top, Remove and tape off the small longer wire on the right! get a 4 gage short pattery cable, Auto Pars stores will make on 8 inches long. Simply connect to the two larger post! No more heat, no more problem! Dont remove any other wires! That short Battery cable just connects the wires and no more juice draw made by the solenoid being activated! Excuse my spelling! allegro5
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