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01-26-2017, 09:28 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: May 2015
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Replacing the coach quartz lighting with LEDs
I have a 2002 Signature Supreme and want to start replacing the coach quartz lighting with LEDs. The bezels keep falling, couple glass lenses have broken, and they run hot, plus they are no longer available, they are Liteco model# 1651 H, 10 W, single end, 2 pin push in type, I have found the bulb but tired of dealing with them.
I have looked on Amazon and they do offer some 3" LED 2 wire ones that look like they would work, plus looked at 2 web sites M4products.com and Cabinbright.com didn't look like they carry a replacement but haven't called yet.
Couple questions, has anyone replaced there fixtures with a LED fixture and is it 2 wire ends and wire nuts, my RV is out of state stored so I haven't removed one yet to see how they are wired but headed down to work on a punch list.
If someone could recommend a brand or distributor where I can purchase a LED fixture that will fit in there place it would be greatly appreciated.
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01-27-2017, 08:07 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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Talk to Joe at Cabinbright. He is very helpful. I have converted all my interior lights to LED's from Cabinbright. Very pleased.
Gene M
2004 Monaco Knight
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01-27-2017, 08:14 AM
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Johnson City, TX
Posts: 1,060
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Do yours look like these?
I replaced mine with these LED units.
They look white, but are brushed nickel. Dimmers still work perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012ZOI44C
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01-27-2017, 03:12 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 6,579
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I just finished this project last week. I replaced over 50 G4 10w halogen bulbs in 3" housings with glass lenses.
These are the 3 inch lighting fixtures in the ceiling with a glass lens that unscrews. On many of these the glass lens was stuck to the ceiling vinyl. I used a plastic small trim removal tool to break loose the vinyl (it looks like a small chisel).
I used two colors, warm white (3500k) and pure white (6500k). I used the warm white in the kitchen area and over the bed, and the pure white in the driver/passenger area, hall, closet, and bathroom.
I also had 8 under counter lights that were slightly different. They had a stainless inner circular piece that held slightly smaller glass lens. I had to pry the stainless inner piece out with the lens, then replace the bulbs. They use the same G4 base 2-pin bulbs.
These bulbs are brighter than the originals and use 1/10 current. Previously a string of 6 lights took 10 amps and now takes less than 1 amp. $15.99 for 10 bulbs on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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07 Monaco Executive McKinley- Sold
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01-27-2017, 09:39 PM
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I plan on checking into CadillLinc suggestion and call cabinbrite get a quote if they have a replacement see what the cost will be for 53 fixtures
It looks like RobbieH ones would work just fine, mine are different but not to far off the 3 inch diameter should cover and look fine, so have to see where the best price is.
By the way all M4products.com have a great web site that explains how LEDs work and their degree of brightness and color, with color pictures to show you.
Thank you all for your help.
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01-28-2017, 11:43 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Tucson, AZ
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Picture of my ceiling light fixture. I have 50+ of these. The glass lens screws off. The bulbs are G4 2-pin push in.
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07 Monaco Executive McKinley- Sold
04 Monaco Signature Chateau IV
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01-30-2017, 08:28 AM
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Forest River Owners Club
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Vito, those mount the same way my new ones do.
The new lights do not have a lens to fall off (mine were falling off too) and of course use a fraction of the power the halogens did.
David, I think mine are 3"' across, but they fit in a 2.4-2.5" hole, which is exactly what the original equipment was. I did not have to do anything other than cut off the old light, wire in the new one, then "spring" it into place.
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01-30-2017, 10:38 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vito.a
I just finished this project last week. I replaced over 50 G4 10w halogen bulbs in 3" housings with glass lenses.
These are the 3 inch lighting fixtures in the ceiling with a glass lens that unscrews. On many of these the glass lens was stuck to the ceiling vinyl. I used a plastic small trim removal tool to break loose the vinyl (it looks like a small chisel).
I used two colors, warm white (3500k) and pure white (6500k). I used the warm white in the kitchen area and over the bed, and the pure white in the driver/passenger area, hall, closet, and bathroom.
I also had 8 under counter lights that were slightly different. They had a stainless inner circular piece that held slightly smaller glass lens. I had to pry the stainless inner piece out with the lens, then replace the bulbs. They use the same G4 base 2-pin bulbs.
These bulbs are brighter than the originals and use 1/10 current. Previously a string of 6 lights took 10 amps and now takes less than 1 amp. $15.99 for 10 bulbs on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I just finished replacing all my G4 bulbs (50) with the same ones from Amazon. I chose the "yellow". I couldn't tell any difference in the color, but a bit more light.... Luv em!
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2007 43.5' Monaco Dynasty Palace III (All Electric)
Towd: 2011 Chevy Equinox
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01-30-2017, 11:37 AM
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Senior Member
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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David, I bought all of mine from cabin brite, Joe was great to deal with. here is ours with the cover removed. They are also dimmable and with the covers on you cannot tell they are LED, other than the lack of heat.
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2002 Holiday Rambler Imperial 40PKD
with Residential refrigerator conversion
2014 Jeep Wrangler in tow, M&G brake system
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01-30-2017, 12:39 PM
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club
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Location: Johnson City, TX
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That's what my original lights looked like with the covers off. Part of why I went for full fixtures is I did not like the look of the originals, and because some of them had been lost along the way. Good solution you have there though!
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02-01-2017, 05:08 AM
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I bought these at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Seems to be the new style on many new motorhomes.
If you are planning on dimming them, you will probably need a special LED dimmer.
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02-02-2017, 07:25 AM
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Those are nice, I used price as part of my selection criteria also. Mine were 8.73 each. They work with the factory dimmer too.
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