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Old 05-25-2011, 04:21 PM   #1
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Question Safe T Plus or Steer Safe for Roadmaster "S" Chassis?

After hearing horror stories from motor coach owners who have had a front tire blowout, Ive decided that it might be prudent to add a Steer-Safe or Safety-Plus system to my Roadmaster S chassis. Id love to hear from those of you who have one or the other system. How do you like the system? Does it help in strong side wind situations? How about in an emergency situation such as a front tire blowout?
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Saftey T Plus works great on our coach. Don't know about blow out, haven't had one before or after Safe T Plus. Installed rear trac bar also and our F53 came with factory front trac bar.
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After several attempts to get a my dealer, then a Freightliner Oasis shop... then a fram shop to correct the road wander in my brand new coach I took it up to Grant's Pass Oregon to Henderson't Line Up.

Among other things, I ended up with a Safe T Plus installed and just loved it from day one. Fortunately I haven't tested it with a front blow out but I feel better knowing it's there.

Having said that, I would REALLY like to have the trim kit installed for it so I could perform adjustments/make corrections while driving. The standard unit simply applies a strong bias on your steering linkage to hold the wheels in what it believe to be "straight". With a crowned road or strong cross winds you still have manual corrections to the steering wheel which need to be made. With the trim kit, one can just hold the wheel straight and push a button which adjusts the bias on the steering to correct for these things. It's on my wish list now.

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I didn't know Safe-T-Plus has a electric trim kit. I believe Blu Ox has a steering unit that does. deSanford
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I didn't know Safe-T-Plus has a electric trim kit. I believe Blu Ox has a steering unit that does. deSanford
Yep, but it's made by Henderson's Line Up I believe and not OEM from SuperSteer. SuperSteer Trim Unit for Freightliner Chassis

It's been out for a couple of years I believe. There was a lot of discussion here on the forum regarding the folks at Super Steer claiming it would void the Safe T Plus warranty but I got in touch with people at both Henderson's and Super Steer and validated that it wasn't true. That's documented in another thread here somewhere.

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Watching this video may help relieve some of your anxiety over a blowout.
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I have had the Safe-T-Plus for 4 years now and it works well. It was last fall, but I called Safe-T-Plus to ask a question about it. I mentioned the Henderson trim kit and got a stern lecture on how it is not an approved add-on and would void the warranty. I sensed some hostility over the issue but didn't ask any more questions to find out why.

I had a Blue Ox TruCenter on my previous coach, an 03 Vacationer gas on a Workhorse chassis. It was nice to be able to center it on the fly but it was on the worst handling coach ever built (I mean my coach, not the whole line) so I probably don't have a fair assessment of it.
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I am also looking at the Saftey-Plus and the Steer Safe but think I have decided on the Blue Ox TruCenter because of being able to trim the steering. It also looks easy to install yourself.
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I have had the Safe-T-Plus for 4 years now and it works well. It was last fall, but I called Safe-T-Plus to ask a question about it. I mentioned the Henderson trim kit and got a stern lecture on how it is not an approved add-on and would void the warranty. I sensed some hostility over the issue but didn't ask any more questions to find out why.
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Here's the thread where I got to the bottom of the trim kit voiding warranty issue. Safe T Plus Trim Kit Voids Safe T Plus Wty???

Bottom line is that it does NOT void the warranty of the Safe T Plus but I think someone there had been telling callers otherwise in error for a while.

In spite of how much I like my Safe T Plus I'd probably buy the Blue Ox Tru Center if I had it to do over again. I think they had some quality issues with solenoids for a while but it is sounding like they're resolved now.

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Rick, thanks for pointing out that previous thread on the subject of the trim kit. I missed that one somehow. I will not share my previous experience any longer as it no longer appears to be an issue. Wish I could retract it now.

I kind of agree with STP that in most instances a trim kit would not be necessary if it is properly adjusted. Mine is dead on but took some trial and error. I used an awl to mark the location of the bracket so I could move it 1/16th of an inch at a time. Found the sweet spot on the third try. It would be nice to have the trim kit in the wind, however, which can be pretty intense around here, especially in the spring (northeast Oklahoma).
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I kind of agree with STP that in most instances a trim kit would not be necessary if it is properly adjusted. Mine is dead on but took some trial and error. I used an awl to mark the location of the bracket so I could move it 1/16th of an inch at a time. Found the sweet spot on the third try. It would be nice to have the trim kit in the wind, however, which can be pretty intense around here, especially in the spring (northeast Oklahoma).
Hi JDT. Thanks for sharing your experience! Several other members had the same experience when calling STP about the trim kit. I really liked the guys at Henderson's Line Up so called them to ask if they knew STP was telling people the trim kit would void their warranty. That led to the exchanges documented in the other thread and cleared the air a bit.

I sure wish I would have been able to get mine adjusted dead on but about the time I think it's perfect, I'll get a cross wind or crowned road that makes me start thinking about how nice it would be to be able to adjust on the fly. Having said that, I'm a gadget junkie and can't rest when there's a new toy available.

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I had a Safety-Plus on a previous P30 chassis that stopped the wandering and the semi passing sway. Every once in a while on tight turns the springs would make some noise.

On my Freightliner XC I had the Safe T Plus installed. I did have a right front Michelin zipper blow out. Don't know how much the Safe T Plus helped as I did what the Michelin video shows to do. Either one, the MH went very straight with no pull on the steering.

I can't say if the chassis really needed the Safe T Plus. As I had only drove it less then 1,000 miles when it was installed. I just figured it couldn't hurt.
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I am also looking at the Saftey-Plus and the Steer Safe but think I have decided on the Blue Ox TruCenter because of being able to trim the steering. It also looks easy to install yourself.
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I have owned a Safe-T-Plus on a previous coach and now have the TruCenter on the Diplomat. They both help to reduce wander but my impression is that the TruCenter does a better job with the by-pass valve so that very little effort is required to over come the hydraulic force when steering the coach. I don't even notice the presence of the TruCenter when steering the coach but did notice the Safe-T-Plus.

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I have owned a Safe-T-Plus on a previous coach and now have the TruCenter on the Diplomat. They both help to reduce wander but my impression is that the TruCenter does a better job with the by-pass valve so that very little effort is required to over come the hydraulic force when steering the coach. I don't even notice the presence of the TruCenter when steering the coach but did notice the Safe-T-Plus.

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Thanks Bob, you just made my decision easier...TruCenter it is.
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