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Old 05-12-2007, 04:41 PM   #1
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We've had 5th wheels in the past and are trying to decide on a new motorhome. We had thought we wanted the 36 Journey Cat 350 diesel, but with the amount of miles we plan, a gas engine makes more sense. We had always thought the Monaco was very nice, many neighbors have them. We will test drive the Monarch 33 SFS tomorrow and make our decision Monday.

This is a whole new ballgame - learning about the Workhorse chassis and we're wondering if anyone can provide comments. We are wanting to know estimated miles per gallon? Recalls or problems to be particularly tuned into? How much can we tow?

The difference in the cost of the diesel engine vs gas is enough to make us seriously consider the gas engine. We would love to have any feedback. Thanks!
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We've had 5th wheels in the past and are trying to decide on a new motorhome. We had thought we wanted the 36 Journey Cat 350 diesel, but with the amount of miles we plan, a gas engine makes more sense. We had always thought the Monaco was very nice, many neighbors have them. We will test drive the Monarch 33 SFS tomorrow and make our decision Monday.

This is a whole new ballgame - learning about the Workhorse chassis and we're wondering if anyone can provide comments. We are wanting to know estimated miles per gallon? Recalls or problems to be particularly tuned into? How much can we tow?

The difference in the cost of the diesel engine vs gas is enough to make us seriously consider the gas engine. We would love to have any feedback. Thanks!
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Old 05-12-2007, 06:18 PM   #3
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We have had two Holiday Rambler Vacationers, one on the Ford V-10 frame and the other on the workhorse W-22. The chassies and engines are the same on the Monaco and Holiday Ramblers, the only difference is the color inside and out, otherwise they are the same, so you may want to shop both brands. Without a trade, you should expect to pay no more than 76 to 77 percent of the MSRP price. Go to the websites of holiday rambler and monaco and get some dealers numbers and call them for a price and use the low price to bargin the Arizona dealer for a good price. also, I think I would stay with the W-22, not the W-20 chassie.

You can expect somewhere between 7.5 and 8.5 MPG towing a toad.
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Old 05-12-2007, 06:37 PM   #4
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Last year, we faced the same change. After 18 years in truck and trailer, and wanting to make the change to MH, we did it. And we wish we would have done it long ago! Love traveling in the MH. Different than the truck and trailer, as soon as we get in the MH, we feel like we're on vacation!

We're real happy with Monaco's fit and finish, and the 8.1 Chev gas engine has plenty of go. We pull a Jeep and hardly know it's back there. Our Trek is on a P-32 158" wheelbase chassis - short, short, short! However, that's also its drawback. Short wheelbase and a long overhang make it a handful in the wind or when trucks pass us. We usually keep speed to 60 or less, and just enjoy the big window view!

The biggest adjustment for us has been the driving manners of the MH compared to our truck. I've driven tractor-trailers for 30+ years, so the size isn't the concern. However, the sway and road manners aren't tight and responsive like the truck. I know part of it is our Trek's configuration, but I'll be real interested to hear a report on your test drive to see what you think.

As I said above, we really like Monaco's fit & finish. I, too, question the value of the diesel engine in the size coach you're looking at. Few people put the miles on to outrun the initial cost differential over the gasser. And routine preventive maintenance costs are higher, too. I'm not suggesting that we'll not end up in a diesel pusher down the line, but the gas rig is good. I'm especially interested in seeing Monaco build a 32-34' MH on the new Workhorse UFO rear gas chassis.

Good luck on your test drive, and please give us a followup report!
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:41 PM   #5
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">How much can we tow? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

4000 lbs...
It is a nice looking rig. I hope you find it is exactly what you want!!



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Old 05-12-2007, 09:23 PM   #6
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Thank you for the quick feedback and words of encouragement. We felt very comfortable in the coach, like home, not over the top with too many frills, but very nice. The full-side slide truly opens up the entire length of the coach, and although only 34', it feels much longer becuase it is so open.

I've just discovered the Service and FAQ links on the Monaco website and I've tried to read everything else I can on the internet tonight. We try to make educated decisions. We will drive it tomorrow morning and check back to see if anyone provides more information.

The members of iRV2 have been most helpful and we hope to someday offer what we have learned to others who seek answers.
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:29 PM   #7
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We have had our 33 SFS for several months now. We had a couple of problems, small leak from the roof above the drivers seat and the right side camera only works when it wants to. Working with the dealer to fix both. Moving into the bedroom while the slide is in is a little tight, bathroom door wants to dent the cabinet. If you get the Sani-con hook up, there is no grey water bypass. We went from a 28 foot class C to the 33 SFS.

The 33 SFS is much quieter going down the road. There is plenty of room while going down the road to move around, family is much more comfortable. We couldn't fill all of the storage space if we wanted to, there is just too much (the class C didn't have enough). You have to plan a little bit with the cabinet storage in the bedroom, can't get into everything with the slide in. Once you get to camp, open it up, level it out, it's huge inside. We couldn't be happier with the coach. I ended up disconnecting the speakers in the bedroom, so the wife could nap while we were driving. Gas mileage is just going to depend on how you drive. Haven't towed anything other than a motorcycle trailer, didn't even know it was there.
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