slides and GFI problem

[FLYING BUTCH]

We have a 04 Beaver Marqie. First is there a easy way to test our GFI outlet below second sink in hallway? It will work fine for days then kick off? Second problem is a little more difficult to explain. Front 2 slides worked fine for 2 years then had some hesitation when trying to get them to work. Had to rock switches back and forth to get them to operate. I replaced switches, checked the relays in relay box area in front drivers panel and main fuses by batteries. Power going thru everything. I thought that only left two things?? Selenoid and perhaps somewhere where power is cut off when main engine is running. I replaced the selenoid and then slides wouldn't work at all, put old one back on still nothing. Took it to camping world and after TWO days they got driver's slide to work but when you push the passanger's slide button out it operate's driver's slide (out) but doesn't bring it in?? I don't understand, nothing was changed with the wireing? Also now the engine will start with slide out?? Any ideas?? Can't imagine what the two days so far are going to cost? They said they have to contact HWH to get help??? Thanks in advance for any ideas guys

[OneRVer]

I would replace the GFI. This would be the best way to test it. If you still have a problem then I would suspect a grounding problem so where.

Before you started to switch thing around on your slide did you lub your drive and gears / ram?

[FLYING BUTCH]

10-4 on replacing the GFI. Nothing was done to the slides before problems started. The motor sides fine when it is operating and the slides seem to move freely. It just seems to me odd that the passenger switch is now operating the drivers slide. I don't know what all the mechanic has done at camping world though?? He believes the power from the switches goes through some type HWH "board", but when I called a Beaver service dealer in Oregon he said that it doesn't? Anyone know how the power flows?

[OneRVer]

Not much help here but there must be a prox. switch located on the motor to show when the slide is in the "in" position. Do you have worm gear or hydraulics to move the slide?

[FLYING BUTCH]

The slides are hydraulic and there isn't any switches or anything else located on the motor? There are a bunch of wires and valves located infront on the motor which operate the hydraulics but I don't see anything loose there???

[OneRVer]

Some where under the bus has to be a Limit Switch or a Proximity Switch to let the ignition know when the slide is in and ready to start. Are your "in/out" switches for your slides side by side?

[FLYING BUTCH]

Yes I agree there has to be something the power goes through to let the system know if the engine is running but haven't been able to find it. I called HWH 3 days ago but no one has returned my call. The front slide switches are side by side on my unit??

[OneRVer]

Sorry for all of the questions but I have been trying to draw out a schematic to try to help you with your problem.

The slide switch's are both together and are in one locations only, right?

One switch, S1, (switch for driver side slide) will move the drivers slide out and back in and the other switch, S2, (switch for the passenger side) will drive out the driver side slide but will not return it back to the closed position, will not drive out the passenger side slide. How am I doing so far?

So now I am just thinking out loud here. The passenger slide is not moving at all. The driver side works like it should with S1. S2 no longer move the passenger slide like it should but moves the driver slide out but not in. Hummmm!

How many wires are going to you switches and are they labeled?

How many solenoids did you have removed at the same time and how far apart are they? How many slides do you have total?

At this time I am thinking that the problem lies withing the wiring and the motor starting with the slide out will be resolved when S2 is figured out. I hope. Hang in there.

[FLYING BUTCH]

You are correct in everything you have stated. We have two front slides. Drivers is working fine (S1) but other slide won't work at all. When I push the s2 toggle switch it moves the driver's slide out but should be moving the passenger slide. Got a call from HWH yesterday and he said there is a "board" behind the generator on the firewall that will most likely show some fault codes. I am going there next. Thanks for the help everyone.

[Rex]

Butch, if you can determine the model number of the HWH system for your slides, you can go to their site and download the manuals for it. Those should be very helpful and may also have schematics of the electrical circuits. Monaco Tech Support may be able to send you a PDF schematic of your coach also. I would think there is an inter-lock circuit that tells the HWH controller when the engine is ON and Camping World may have left that disconnected. When you find the HWH Controller, look around it for a plug that is disconnected. Also look for one in the front run bay under the driver's window. The Camping World tech also may have switched the wiring at the HWH controller causing the wrong switch to operate your slide. You will need the HWH manuals to determine this and they are easy to follow. Also HWH tech support is very good to work with.

[1ciderdog]

HWH was very help full with a Jack problem I had on my motor home. The board also controlled the slides so you might want to give them another call and talk to a technician. When I called the tech talked me trough the trouble shooting and determined it was a bad board. This trouble shooting took three or four calls but back to the same technician each call so no re-explaing the problem to a differenct tech. I told him I'd take it to an RV dealer so they could replace the board - he replied if I was capable of running all the tests he gave me it would be a waste of my time & money to take it to an RV dealer to do something I could do. I ordered the board - replaced it myself - problem resolved.
Good luck
Bob

[FLYING BUTCH]

Guys this thing gets worse every second it is at Camping World??? The first day after I took it there I called the mechanic. He said he was going to have to drop the water tank from under the frame so he could get a look at the slide motor. I told him NO, the motor is right under the front step!! He said are you sure? I told him positive as I had put a new selenoid on it. After a couple days I called to see how it was going. I was told they had to contact HWH as he couldn't find the board the power was going through. I called HWH and found where it was and left a note with service dept. Called yesterday and was told they found it wasn't HWH and could find telephone number of maker of the slide motor to get a wireing diagram. I made one call and got number and talked with owner of the company. Camping World told me they could not repair the slide but would now take one hour off bill so it was only $379!!! I'll be damned if I am going to pay to train a mechanic that obviously has very little knowledge about working on a RV. Damn I am hot!!

[OneRVer]

I have never been told anything good about Camping World maintenance dept. Isn't there other RV shops in your area. In the Spokane area we do not have a Camping World but we do have three reputable RV shops. At this point I would have to say Camping World owes you not the other way around.

[Peppi]

When camping world started out they had the right idea, to sell things campers needed..... Camping (Clipping) World has grown into todays normal corporate conglamorate run by idiots directing more idiots who hire shade tree mechanics to work on your dream vacation. [ gee,, I awlays wanted to work on a transmission] . Service managers (Joe Kool) are experts at blowing smoke and will tell you how well qualified his mechanics are. I was at Craping World (oops) Tallahassee.FL at quiting time and it looked like the cast from Deliverance walking out. I thought the least Clumping World would do is give their "mechanics" company shirts, no way, they only get $140.00 an hour, can't afford it. About $3000.00 later I got my motor home back (fuel pump cost $1600.00) and I was told that was their cost. Later I discovered my gas tank had a 20 degree list to starbord and a hydraulic line was trapped between the tank and a metal strap that went around it. Will I ever go back .