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09-14-2017, 05:41 PM
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Tow vehicle wheel wobble
I have a 2007 holiday rambler 42 foot diesel pusher I'm pulling a 2016 jeep Cherokee trail hawk with a good tow bar flat tow I have not had any problems in the last 1000 miles but I just took a sharp corner maybe a little too fast and the Cherokee wheel
s started to wobbling like crazy I had to pull over and stop after that everything was OK was it because I went too fast around the corner or do I have a bigger problem
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09-14-2017, 05:45 PM
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If you search the forum using the search box with the Google logo, you'll find lots of people with the 'Cherokee wobble.' I think there is a kit from Jeep to reduce it, check the forum and then maybe a Jeep dealer.
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'98 Gulf Stream Sun Voyager DP being pushed by a '00 Beetle TDI
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09-14-2017, 05:49 PM
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Yes I have heard about that but I thought that was at high-speed's
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09-15-2017, 06:36 AM
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This was very scary has anybody had this happen at high speed? What is the best way to make it stop? I will be calling Jeep today.
Thank you
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09-15-2017, 08:42 AM
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You keep asking questions of the forum that have been answered and discussed at length. Here's the forum's Google search results:
https://www.google.com/search?q=cher...earch=irv2.com
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'98 Gulf Stream Sun Voyager DP being pushed by a '00 Beetle TDI
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09-15-2017, 08:51 AM
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This happens to most brands with electronic steering. When transitioning from a hard turn to a straight path or more commonly to another hard turn in the opposite direction, my Equinox does it. The wheels get turning in a direction and when the transition to another direction or straight happens before the wheels come back to a straight position, the "wobble" occurs. Some have recommended putting a bungee on the steering wheel, but I have found it actually makes the problem worse if the bungee passes the high point on the steering wheel.
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09-15-2017, 09:11 AM
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We have an Equinox with electronic steering & we have the wobble problem -- FMCA did a survey of Equinox & Terrain owners & submitted the response to GM -- I doubt if anything will come from it -- It`s a 2011, we`re the original owners & towed it about 40,000 miles -- Never had the wobble at high speeds -- Mainly on right turns -- Bill Willard
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09-16-2017, 08:28 AM
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Tow vehicle wheel wobble
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Originally Posted by BFlinn181
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I'm sorry BFlinn182 it's very hard to search through the forum on my small cell phone why I'm moving and camping without Wi-Fi I'm sorry if I inconvenienced you
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09-16-2017, 09:05 AM
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You didn't 'inconvenience' me, I was a teacher for more than 40 years, I've tried throughout my years to teach folks to find answers for themselves.
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'98 Gulf Stream Sun Voyager DP being pushed by a '00 Beetle TDI
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09-16-2017, 03:36 PM
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I have a 2016 Cherokee Limited and I had to put on the anti wobble Kit to be on the safe side here. My biggest complaint-- is that Jeep tells you it is 4 down towing no problem and than they say you need an anti wobble kit or no warranty if damage done to steering w/o it. Some have said the dealer will install at no charge I argued with Jeep to get this installed to no avail . my stupid dealer knew nothing at all when I had asked the question, and Jeep was like talking to the wall. I had to pay the nearly $500 Canadian for install.
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09-17-2017, 12:19 PM
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09-19-2017, 05:18 PM
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Also you should read the threads here:
Severe shaking problem towing behind motorhome - 2014+ Jeep Cherokee Forums
http://jeepcherokeeclub.com/337-towing-towed/188145-thank-you-jeepcares-flat-tow-harness.html
... and there are others...
There's a TSB on the Jeep Cherokee towed Kit. Your 2016 may be covered at no cost to you. I know that 2014 and 2015 models are, but for 2016 am not sure. The "Accessory Kit to Enhance Flat Tow Performance" is a wiring harness added which energizes the Jeep Cherokee's Electronic Power Steering system when you are towing behind an MH.
Long version of the story goes something like this: The servos of Cherokee's EPS system are normally only active when engine is running. The software in the EPS computer contains what is called a 'wobble mitigation algorithm' which detects and stops the wobble from occurring when driving normally down the road. The 'wiring kit' enables you to turn the EPS system on while engine is off, e.g. during towing.
To put it gently, 'bad stuff' can happen at almost any speed w/o the kit. Safest move is to get it ASAP.
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09-21-2017, 10:24 AM
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It appears jeep has ruined a perfectly good 4 wheel down vehicle. Looks like my 2012 V8 grand Cherokee will have to last as I will not be buying a vehicle that I have to turn on the battery to tow it.
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09-21-2017, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff753
It appears jeep has ruined a perfectly good 4 wheel down vehicle. Looks like my 2012 V8 grand Cherokee will have to last as I will not be buying a vehicle that I have to turn on the battery to tow it.
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The KL Cherokee would have been a much better 4 Wheel Down toad had FCA realized that they shouldn't be building it the way they did and then with expectation of marketing it as a toad.
The fact that the EPS design of this vehicle, like that of the Chrysler 200 and others, uses solenoids, controlled by computer, for the power assist. Software in that EPS computer contains what is known as a 'wobble-mitigation-algorithm' which eliminates the wobble while driving down the road (engine on). They knew about this long before the KL hit the showrooms advertised as the "ideal tow vehicle" in their brochures. In around 2011 they applied for a patent on their 'wobble-mitigation-algorithm'. Had they had the presence of mind and about an extra 5 bucks to put into the manufacture of the KL they could have designed in a circuit which activates the EPS while disconnecting the EPS computer from the rest of the KL's computers on the CAN bus. Instead they waited and delayed ... somebody had to know it would happen ... until reports of "severe shaking while being towed behind motorhomes" began to be reported. Eventually they came up with the kit for "enhanced towing" or something like that... put it one for free on 2014 and 2015 models when problems were reported. The kit consists of some wires, a switch and fuse holder in a circuit which activates the EPS while disconnecting the EPS computer from the rest of the KL's computers on the CAN bus.
Some other vehicles, including the newer Grand Cherokee I believe, have a different type of "EPS".... it uses an electrically driven power steering pump and retains the fluid damping inherent in this type of system while saving fuel by only activating the pump when needed.
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