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Old 12-20-2018, 03:03 PM   #15
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Has anyone tried M-154 Toyo all position tires, Les Swab is recommending a set for my 2002 Exec.
Go with the M-144's... They have a higher weight carrying capacity.
And have them "sipe'd (gives a little better traction and handling on wet/slick roads)

Then do the "beads" balancing....
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I specified tires made in Japan...
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Some are made in Japan, Malaysia and .........China.
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I did go with the M-144, my previous thread with M-141 was wrong, also asked for made in Japan with current DOT and bean balancing, not sure what sipe'd is?? I checked on Michelins but price was out of my comfort level.
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"not sure what sipe'd is??".
Ask there @ Les Schaab, they can show you, and the machine to do it..(Easier than trying to explain.)
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Yeah, and my post of M154 was wrong, fat fingers, really M144. Sorry
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Thanks for all the input, just called Les Swab and changed my order to M141 295/80R/22.5 tires, checked my ID plate and it does spec 80R for coach, big difference in max load rating, M154 75R is rated at 6,175 lbs and M141 80R is rated at 7,830 lbs, huge difference, almost same pricing.



Mhcorrigan, you may want to take another look, your Sig is also heavy.


Yep, had my head up my butt when looking at specs for M154. Changed order to 8 M144ís, which will work fine in regard to tire weight capacity. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
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IMO siping is a B.S. scam. And others as well. Just a way for tire installers to suck more money from your wallet.
But don't take my word for it. Just do a internet search about it.
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IMO siping is a B.S. scam. And others as well. Just a way for tire installers to suck more money from your wallet.
But don't take my word for it. Just do a internet search about it.


Siping tires works if you are subject to driving on a lot of ice covered roads. I spent 13 years driving in northern Alaska in the winter and they work very well. Probably would not do it in the lower 48 but up there, yes.
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Thanks for all the input, just called Les Swab and changed my order to M141 295/80R/22.5 tires, checked my ID plate and it does spec 80R for coach, big difference in max load rating, M154 75R is rated at 6,175 lbs and M141 80R is rated at 7,830 lbs, huge difference, almost same pricing.

Mhcorrigan, you may want to take another look, your Sig is also heavy.
Toyo M 141? I don't see that tire listed on any web site nor do I see 295/80/22.5 tire sizes. Your load specs for the different sizes don't add up either. There is very little difference between 295/75 and 295/80 other than the size.
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Snowman1, I made a typo, should have said M-144, and yes from the chart I was viewing there is a big weight difference between the M-154 295/75R and the M-144 295/80R tire, any way coach spec's 295/80R and that's what I went with, felt it best to stay with mfg. spec.
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You're right, there is a big difference in the load capacity between the two sizes. When it comes time to replacing my steers I might look at going up to a 295/80.
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Me too. 144s. They've been great.
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Siping tires works if you are subject to driving on a lot of ice covered roads. I spent 13 years driving in northern Alaska in the winter and they work very well. Probably would not do it in the lower 48 but up there, yes.
Last winter I climbed Grants pass, towing the car, with about 3" of fresh snow on the road, without spinning a tire . Wouldn't have wanted to get going from a dead stop on the steepest grades thou!
One year old M144's, no sipping.
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Toyo tires

I replaced my timed out bridgstones with toyo,s because of the positive comments here on this forum. We also installed new bilstein shocks. The difference is huge. They run very quiet and the ride is much better.
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