Using a Carryout for Satellite TV

[love to fish]

Our new 2012 Monaco Monarch only has one cable in the rear bay for cable hookup. It is an RG6 cable. We have a Carryout for Dish Network. We would like to use this for watching TV when camping. Has anyone used the existing cable using a splitter to hookup a satellite carryout?

[Steve N Sal]

From the way I understand the hookups you could feed that outlet from the carryout but once that RG6 cable reaches the distribution panel it would have to be removed and hooked directly to the tv. The signal from the carryout will not pass thru a distribution center or splitter. If you need to watch another tv I believe there is a hook-up on the carryout to run to the 2nd tv. Hope this helps.

[patmsp]

If you have a Dish carry out then you probably have a Dish receiver somewhere. The RG6 coax end will connect to the back of the Dish receiver and then an HDMI cable from the receiver to the TV.

On the other hand, if you want to hook up the RG6 to the Dish and also hook it up to a cable then you must have a splitter on the Dish side and also one on the receiver side to split out the cable and Dish signal separately.

[Wayne M]

I run mine through the distribution center and feed both televisions. Must watch same channel on each tv.

I need to clarify that. I have the Dish VIP 722. It is fed from the antenna (carryout) from the outside satellite connection. The VIP-722 then feeds the distribution center and it is what the BR tv sees.

I also leave the distribution amplifier on and feed the output of the distribution amp into the back of the satellite receiver (ant in) and then scan for local channels. Now everything is in my satellite guide menu.

[itdave]

You can't use a splitter with in the cable between the dish and the receiver. The receiver must be able to send a voltage up the coax to the dish to tell it which satellite to select and a splitter block the DC voltage. On the carryout there is a primary and secondary port to connect the a coax to. The Primary port is used to select the correct satellite for the channel you want to watch. If you want to watch another channel on the secondary port that channel must be on the same satellite. If you coach is like mine there are two coax jacks in one of the back bay one is for a Satellite connection and the other is for a Cable tv connection. In my coach both cable end up in the front cabinet over the drivers seat. This is where the video switch is located. You should be able to connect the primary port on the carryout to the Satellite connection in the rear bay then connect a jumper from the coax connection in the front cabinet to you Directv receiver. If you have a receiver with two tuners the primary port of the carryout goes to tuner 1 and the output of the secondary port goes to tuner 2. You should be able to use the Cable TV coax connection in the rear bay to get the secondary signal to the front cabinet. Then just run a coax jumper from the coax connection in the front cabinet labeled Cable TV to tuner 2 of the Directv receiver.

[VestaDave]

I think there are at least two connections in the rear bay. One for cable and one for sat. The type of receiver you have will dictate if you can use splitters. If you have the 211k I think you won't need a splitter because it will only accommodate 1 TV anyway.

[orpco]

the 211k has both hdmi and composite cable connections. I am running 1 to the front tv and the other to the bedroom. You can watch the same program to each tv using both sets of cables at same time.

[love to fish]

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Originally Posted by itdave You can't use a splitter with in the cable between the dish and the receiver. The receiver must be able to send a voltage up the coax to the dish to tell it which satellite to select and a splitter block the DC voltage. On the carryout there is a primary and secondary port to connect the a coax to. The Primary port is used to select the correct satellite for the channel you want to watch. If you want to watch another channel on the secondary port that channel must be on the same satellite. If you coach is like mine there are two coax jacks in one of the back bay one is for a Satellite connection and the other is for a Cable tv connection. In my coach both cable end up in the front cabinet over the drivers seat. This is where the video switch is located. You should be able to connect the primary port on the carryout to the Satellite connection in the rear bay then connect a jumper from the coax connection in the front cabinet to you Directv receiver. If you have a receiver with two tuners the primary port of the carryout goes to tuner 1 and the output of the secondary port goes to tuner 2. You should be able to use the Cable TV coax connection in the rear bay to get the secondary signal to the front cabinet. Then just run a coax jumper from the coax connection in the front cabinet labeled Cable TV to tuner 2 of the Directv receiver.

Thanks for your reply.

We were told by Monaco that they are no longer putting two coax jacks in the back bay. We used to have a Holiday Rambler and it did have 2 jacks and a distribution box inside above the passenger seat. Monaco also told us that they are no longer using a distribution box because it was to confusing for the user....we never had a problem. We could have easily connected the carryout if there were still 2 jacks. Unfortunately, the dealer told us that the one jack could be used for both the carryout and cable...one at a time of course. Too bad they didn't know what they were talking about.

We do a lot of dry camping and do use the carryout or at least we used to with our HR. So with one jack we are trying to figure out how to make it work. We would like to keep the possibility of using cable as this is what the RV parks have. We have located the coax cable above the driver side. At this time it is connected to an outlet that in turn was connected to the TV.

We use Dish Network and have a VIP 722. We are using an HDMI cable to connect to the TV and have the cable from the VIP 722 going through the driver window directly to the carryout. But we don't want to do it this way forever.

So I was writing my message for help hoping someone else has this same problem and have been able to resolve it.

[love to fish]

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Originally Posted by VestaDave I think there are at least two connections in the rear bay. One for cable and one for sat. The type of receiver you have will dictate if you can use splitters. If you have the 211k I think you won't need a splitter because it will only accommodate 1 TV anyway.

I don't know if I need to answer each reply individually as I am new to this Forum. I did a long explanation to the "itdave" reply.

So Monaco no longer has two connections in the rear bay. Only one connection and at this time it is set up to connect to Cable. We were thinking of trying a splitter so that we could connect to Cable or Satellite. We were going to put the splitter in the area above the driver side. The existing coax goes from the rear bay to the area above the driver side. Then it connects to the TV via one outlet jack. This lets you watch TV via Cable over through the over the air antenna. We thought maybe a splitter could be used to split the coax before the outlet jack. We have not tried it yet.

I was hoping someone who reads this has already resolved the issue before we start pulling stuff apart.

[love to fish]

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Originally Posted by patmsp If you have a Dish carry out then you probably have a Dish receiver somewhere. The RG6 coax end will connect to the back of the Dish receiver and then an HDMI cable from the receiver to the TV. On the other hand, if you want to hook up the RG6 to the Dish and also hook it up to a cable then you must have a splitter on the Dish side and also one on the receiver side to split out the cable and Dish signal separately.

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Why would I need a splitter on the Dish side and also one on the Receiver side?

Thanks

[roscoesdad]

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Originally Posted by love to fish Our new 2012 Monaco Monarch only has one cable in the rear bay for cable hookup. It is an RG6 cable. We have a Carryout for Dish Network. We would like to use this for watching TV when camping. Has anyone used the existing cable using a splitter to hookup a satellite carryout?

I had the same problem on a 95 HR. Only had 1 coax from front to reat. Here is a way to use sat. and antenna with the 1 coax setup. Satellite Diplexer: Signal Combiner and Splitter. You need 2 diplexers. 1 installed in the compartment for hookup and 1 installed in the coach. The one in the coach allows a cable to go to the receiver and another to the tv. If your receiver has no coax output, use the red, yellow, white cables and the input on your tv.

[itdave]

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Originally Posted by roscoesdad I had the same problem on a 95 HR. Only had 1 coax from front to reat. Here is a way to use sat. and antenna with the 1 coax setup. Satellite Diplexer: Signal Combiner and Splitter. You need 2 diplexers. 1 installed in the compartment for hookup and 1 installed in the coach. The one in the coach allows a cable to go to the receiver and another to the tv. If your receiver has no coax output, use the red, yellow, white cables and the input on your tv.

Love to Fish,
This reply is correct and will work if you only want to use the primary output of the carryout. The original purpose of the diplexer is to combine a over the air antenna signal with the satellite signal get them into the home on one cable and then split the signal back apart so one can go to the Satellite receiver and the other to the TV tuner. Your only loss in doing what was suggested is that you will not be able to watch one satellite station while recording a show from another channel on your DVR.

[VestaDave]

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Originally Posted by orpco the 211k has both hdmi and composite cable connections. I am running 1 to the front tv and the other to the bedroom. You can watch the same program to each tv using both sets of cables at same time.

I'll have to give that 2 TV connection a try. We never watch TV in our bedroom so I never hooked it up to our tailgater. By the way, Dish calls the 211 k their solo because they say it will operate one TV.

[Wayne M]

You may already know this, but for others that don't, using the VIP-722 you do not need to feed the signal into Sat1 and Sat2, just use Sat1 as the Primary input. If you are capable of using both you will have Picture-in-picture as long as the channels are coming from the same DISH network satellite.

On the back of the VIP-722 there is a Distribution Out RF jack. If you have a cable going to the back bedroom this will feed that television. You use the RF remote in the back bedroom to change channels. Again, because this is a "dome" antenna you will only receive one satellite at a time so you will have to either watch the same channel or choose one on the same satellite.

Also on the back of the VIP-722 is an Antenna input. If you connect the batwing to this connection you can go into the menu and "Scan for local channels." It will find the channels and populate your menu with them. Instead of those channels showing up in the guide as a light blue color, they will be a yellowish color. You can then use the VIP-722 for viewing OTA or satellite signals without have to use a switcher.

I really like the VIP-722. Now if they would just come out with a dome that would receive more than 1 satellite at a time. Listen up Winegard.

Happy trails.