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04-17-2013, 06:04 PM
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2008 35 MKE couch slide floor ROT
Before we headed home from Florida I found rot in the 15 foot couch slide. Was in the chair compartment and could smell mildew and pulled the left hand corner up and could see black stains on the plywood. Have decided to tackle this now, talked with Ralph and found how the floor is put together. 3/8 plywood on bottom ,5/8 plywood strips and 5/8 bead board insulation sandwiched between another 3/8 sheet of plywood. Removed the couch and the chair storage, peeled back the carpet and found a lot of rot in the top 3/8 panel and the 5/8s strip down the right side and along the storage 5/8 strip. Now that I have that removed I am down to the bottom 3/8 floor sheet the rot here isn't as bad as the 5/8 stris and top sheet, have been using light heat and a fan on low. Checked today and almost dry even where it goes under the side wall but will keep the fan on it for a couple more days to make sure it's dry. Next I will use a product from West Marine called Penetrating Expoxy (I use this on wooden boats to repair wood rot) This stuff is 2 part mix and soaks in replacing and enhancing the fibers and becomes very hard and water proof. Smith Systems uses a product called CPSE epoxy and works the same way another is Endrot.) When that's dry will rebuild the 5/8 strips glueing them down ,staple and stainless screw them down and put the bead board back and inslall a new3/8 plywood top deck and glue,staple and screw that down and put the rug and other parts back. I have had 2 out of 4 slides at Smith Center but didn't want to have to make the trip to Smith Center very nice group but at the cost of fuel from Mass. made me think twice.
Dick
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04-17-2013, 06:24 PM
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Can u post pics of the progression of repair?
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04-17-2013, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasTwoStep
Can u post pics of the progression of repair?
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Yes I have some but never have posted pictures before?
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04-17-2013, 07:46 PM
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where was the water getting in?
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04-17-2013, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rsteabag
Yes I have some but never have posted pictures before?
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Go to post reply in the upper left hand corner of this thread. A window will open.
Scroll down till you get to manage attachments and you can browse and upload from your computer. After you select the pictures be sure to hit upload.
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04-17-2013, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chief02
where was the water getting in?
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Think that the water is coming from the frame that goes around the slide face. Where the frame makes a 45 degree turn to come down the sides. The 45 has some space and itis both legs of the 45 connected on the back of the 45 with a plate. I think it gets by that and follows it down to the floor. Also think when it gets to that area the floor is screwed from the outside wall with 4-- 3" screws and they go into the 5/8 plywood strips on the sides the floor is also screwed up from the bottom of the 3/8 plywood into the bottom of the side walls.. In thoes 5/8 strips is where I found the most rot and seems to wick to the 3/8 plywood top and bottom. That's my thoughts from what I have uncovered.
Dick
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04-17-2013, 08:20 PM
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Dick,
May I suggest that while you are rebuilding your slide floor that you place a couple of extra 5/8 plywood to better support the floor. A couple of year ago I was at the factory looking at how floor are built with a friend as he thought his were soft. What we found was with my 300 lbs. of BS on top of the floor. it was soft in the area of the 5/8 bead board. By placing the extra 5/8 plywood you would have a sturdier floor in the slide.
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04-17-2013, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Still Working "NOT"
Dick,
May I suggest that while you are rebuilding your slide floor that you place a couple of extra 5/8 plywood to better support the floor. A couple of year ago I was at the factory looking at how floor are built with a friend as he thought his were soft. What we found was with my 300 lbs. of BS on top of the floor. it was soft in the area of the 5/8 bead board. By placing the extra 5/8 plywood you would have a sturdier floor in the slide.
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I have already planned to add some to the width of the strips to give it more strength. Thanks for the tip.
Dick
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04-20-2013, 07:25 AM
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pics of 2008 Excel couch slide floor rot
Hope that the pictures are ok this is my first attempt
Dick
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04-20-2013, 07:53 PM
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Teabag,
Looks like you caught it real early on.....my old '05 model was a lot worse before we noticed. PI was very good about taking care of this know product concern. rockin'
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04-20-2013, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rockintom
Teabag,
Looks like you caught it real early on.....my old '05 model was a lot worse before we noticed. PI was very good about taking care of this know product concern. rockin'
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Tom I had been watching it then one day it got real soft. Let the floor down an inch or so today on the rear side wall so I can get some air movement and heat under the wall and on that edge of the floor as it's still a bit damp. Hope to get the Expoxy on it this next week if the temps stay above 50. The weather station indicates that most of the week may only get to the low 50s. Need to open allt windows and vents with the fumes from this stuff,
Dick
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04-24-2013, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rsteabag
Tom I had been watching it then one day it got real soft. Let the floor down an inch or so today on the rear side wall so I can get some air movement and heat under the wall and on that edge of the floor as it's still a bit damp. Hope to get the Expoxy on it this next week if the temps stay above 50. The weather station indicates that most of the week may only get to the low 50s. Need to open allt windows and vents with the fumes from this stuff,
Dick
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Today was able to apply the Epoxy and now have to wait 24 hrs. for it to dry, then will put one more coat on. Here are some pics.
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04-24-2013, 06:32 PM
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Thanks Tbag for the update......we'll keep watchin' for the progress report. rockin'
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04-28-2013, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rockintom
Thanks Tbag for the update......we'll keep watchin' for the progress report. rockin'
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Yo-Yo Tbag,
We need an update!!! How's it going. Pix please!
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