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Bedroom slide not closing all the way
03-25-2011, 03:18 PM
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My bedroom slide starts to clutch before the bottom tucks in and seals completely. The outside bottom flange has about a 1/2 inch gap while the top half of the slide flange is closed tight and even with the coach. I do see a little light seeping in on the lower inside corners. I have noticed that the mattress is pushed pretty hard againt the inside cabinets. Is this what is causing the the slide motor to clutch? This is the factory matress, I have remover the factory box spring (we hatted it),,The box spring was accually the palform that the gas shocks were attached to and was very flimsy. I build a plywood platform and put the factory mattress and 3 in memory foam back on. The platform does not hit the cabinets, only the matress does. it has most likely been doing this I bought the coach last June but never really noticed it till the DW did. I think there was a 1/2 miscalculation during construction. Has anyone else seen this?
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03-25-2011, 04:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chief02
My bedroom slide starts to clutch before the bottom tucks in and seals completely. The outside bottom flange has about a 1/2 inch gap while the top half of the slide flange is closed tight and even with the coach. I do see a little light seeping in on the lower inside corners. I have noticed that the mattress is pushed pretty hard againt the inside cabinets. Is this what is causing the the slide motor to clutch? This is the factory matress, I have remover the factory box spring (we hatted it),,The box spring was accually the palform that the gas shocks were attached to and was very flimsy. I build a plywood platform and put the factory mattress and 3 in memory foam back on. The platform does not hit the cabinets, only the matress does. it has most likely been doing this I bought the coach last June but never really noticed it till the DW did. I think there was a 1/2 miscalculation during construction. Has anyone else seen this?
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Not seen it chief.........but I will tell you the mattress does crush a pretty good bit when in all the way. This is both on the old 05 Excel (electric) and our '10 model with hydraulics. Sorry not much help. I have not fooled with the new bed mechanism with electric. They are many differences in the operation and construction on the newer ones...rockin'
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03-25-2011, 08:37 PM
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Chief02,
Not having seen this problem I think I head to the dealer and have it looked at. Sounds like something has slip out of place somewhere.
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03-26-2011, 09:53 AM
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I suspect the slide ram is not adjusted correctly.
On my 07, I have a single rod under the floor of my bed storage. It runs from the slide to the foot of the bed frame, extending through a piece of wood running from side to side of the bed frame. The rod has a threaded end and an adjusting nut [or two] that controls the length of travel for that rod. Which controls the travel of the slide room.
Lippert factory guy said you just adjust that nut. I suggest you call Jack at PI. May be as easy as that. Maybe not.
Don't stand at the foot of the bed while testing.
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03-26-2011, 06:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chief02
My bedroom slide starts to clutch before the bottom tucks in and seals completely. The outside bottom flange has about a 1/2 inch gap while the top half of the slide flange is closed tight and even with the coach. I do see a little light seeping in on the lower inside corners. I have noticed that the mattress is pushed pretty hard againt the inside cabinets. Is this what is causing the the slide motor to clutch? This is the factory matress, I have remover the factory box spring (we hatted it),,The box spring was accually the palform that the gas shocks were attached to and was very flimsy. I build a plywood platform and put the factory mattress and 3 in memory foam back on. The platform does not hit the cabinets, only the matress does. it has most likely been doing this I bought the coach last June but never really noticed it till the DW did. I think there was a 1/2 miscalculation during construction. Has anyone else seen this?
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New to this forum but had the same problem with the bedroom slide on my 30rso not closing all the way. After talking to service dept. found that after you hook up, drop the front legs and raise enough to take the pressure off the hitch which in turn takes the pressure of the front i-beam. When I do this bedroom slide will go all the way in with no gaps. I would try this before adjusting the bed.
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03-26-2011, 08:41 PM
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thanks for ur replys. My BR slide is electric motor chain driven. The is an adjustment nut on th end of the chain drive. I can barly get a wrench on it but did adjust it some.. no real change, however, when I remove the mattress it closes all the way. So the mattress pressure aganist the vanity cabinets is caussing the motor to begin clutching (safety slippage) before it is all the way closed. This is the original factory mattress. I will talk to the dealer then PI. I doubt that the cluching cna be adujusted,
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03-27-2011, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce and Jenna
I suspect the slide ram is not adjusted correctly.
On my 07, I have a single rod under the floor of my bed storage. It runs from the slide to the foot of the bed frame, extending through a piece of wood running from side to side of the bed frame. The rod has a threaded end and an adjusting nut [or two] that controls the length of travel for that rod. Which controls the travel of the slide room.
Lippert factory guy said you just adjust that nut. I suggest you call Jack at PI. May be as easy as that. Maybe not.
Don't stand at the foot of the bed while testing. 
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I know these instructions don't apply to your electric slide. But I thought I would add my notes from the Lippert factory on adjusting a hydraulic BR ram. Just for reference here.
Double nuts sit be at the end of the shaft. With bed in, the nuts further up the shaft should butt up against metal crosspiece at the foot of the bed.
Morale of the story: Check those nuts!
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03-27-2011, 03:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce and Jenna
I know these instructions don't apply to your electric slide. But I thought I would add my notes from the Lippert factory on adjusting a hydraulic BR ram. Just for reference here.
Double nuts sit be at the end of the shaft. With bed in, the nuts further up the shaft should butt up against metal crosspiece at the foot of the bed.
Morale of the story: Check those nuts! 
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Here's a pair..... 
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03-27-2011, 07:55 PM
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And quite a pair at that,,,lmao
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03-27-2011, 09:01 PM
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Chief we had an a small issue like this and it was because the bedframe had gotten moved and was in the way. They adjusted the frame and also adjusted slide mechanism, haven't had a problem since.
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03-28-2011, 06:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chief02
.....when I remove the mattress it closes all the way. So the mattress pressure aganist the vanity cabinets is caussing the motor to begin clutching (safety slippage) before it is all the way closed.
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I have the electric slide system also. When My slide is fully retracted, in, the mattress is pressed slightly against the cabinets/vanity but is below the counter overhang of the vanity. I can place my hand,snug, between the mattress and counter/cabinet. We also use a 3in topper on the mattress Without a problem.
I would guess that if the slide will fully retract with the mattress removed and you have rebuilt the 'box spring'..... that might be where your problem is. You changed the height of the mattress/box spring which now causes the top of the mattress to contact the cabinet.
When I'm retracting the slide, the bottom of my slide will be out slightly more than the top. As the slides's flange is seating, the top will be flush and the bottom will still be out about an inch. As the slide continues to retract, the bottom will pivot in and seat. I would guess that the mattress contacting the cabinet/vanity and stopping the movement of the slide is why the gap is at the bottom.
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03-28-2011, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Workshop
I have the electric slide system also. When My slide is fully retracted, in, the mattress is pressed slightly against the cabinets/vanity but is below the counter overhang of the vanity. I can place my hand,snug, between the mattress and counter/cabinet. We also use a 3in topper on the mattress Without a problem.
I would guess that if the slide will fully retract with the mattress removed and you have rebuilt the 'box spring'..... that might be where your problem is. You changed the height of the mattress/box spring which now causes the top of the mattress to contact the cabinet.
When I'm retracting the slide, the bottom of my slide will be out slightly more than the top. As the slides's flange is seating, the top will be flush and the bottom will still be out about an inch. As the slide continues to retract, the bottom will pivot in and seat. I would guess that the mattress contacting the cabinet/vanity and stopping the movement of the slide is why the gap is at the bottom.
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X2........what workhorse says makes sense to me!! Thanks for your input, work.....you are the best! rockin'
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03-28-2011, 07:48 AM
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Not sure your situation is identical to mine but,I also had a clearance problem after replacing the original mattress. The mattress would contact the cabinet and crush a bit. Over time it caused the woodruff key to break and the slide would not move.
After replacing the shear pin, we have simply raised the bed while we close the slide and lowering it after it is all the way in. Hope this helps.
Ret. BFC Wash.D.C.
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03-28-2011, 08:12 PM
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The mattress is the factort supplied one. What I did was remmove the box spring and build a plywood platfor for rhe mattress then added the 3 inch topper. The platform is 1.5 inched shorter then the mattress. The overall height is accually lower the the original height. The mattress has always compressed a little bit from day one. I may have never noticed the bottom not seating. We got the coach last June. I also have thought about simply propping up the bed a few inches while in transit and storage so that the slide seats along the bottom. I will ask Ralph from RV sales about it when I see him in Las Cruces.
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