Blown Tire Tread

[Endeavor2BnC]

We traveled approximately 24 miles on this tire and only sustained this small amount of damage. Our guardian angel sure was watching over us. Goodyear is taking care of the claim.

If anyone needs new tires and you're in Colorado Springs go to the Goodyear shop on Academy north and ask for Garth. He's the manager there and he really took good care of all our needs. When it's all said and done we now have 5 new tires for less than I ever thought was possible.

[rockintom]

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Originally Posted by Endeavor2BnC We traveled approximately 24 miles on this tire and only sustained this small amount of damage. Our guardian angel sure was watching over us. Goodyear is taking care of the claim. If anyone needs new tires and you're in Colorado Springs go to the Goodyear shop on Academy north and ask for Garth. He's the manager there and he really took good care of all our needs. When it's all said and done we now have 5 new tires for less than I ever thought was possible.

So glad you are OK.....no one listens to me......aren't those GY tires going on 4 years old?......enough said. You can set your clock by them! I changed out at the 3 year mark. Hope you checked the DOT date code on the new ones.

Clean the polyflex and use some Gorrilla tape to hold it until you can get it repaired. rockin'

[Endeavor2BnC]

DOT code is 0710. The old ones were from 1006. They were getting to the 4.4 yr mark. We were going to replace them this summer in MN when we were work camping. Oh well, now were good for a few more years.

[rockintom]

I love it......when I talked with folks on their tire tread seperation/blowout issues.....it's always... "I was gonna change those tires next month" .....so I caught you again!!! Just funnin. I am glad you didn't get more damage. The newer Goodyear G 614s are supposed to be better. Still gotta take good care of them and run at max PSI. (110). SKIA has spoken!!

[motojavaphil]

Hey Tim,

Four years. I am glad you are OK. It is just not right. We have GY's on all four corners of the Beaver and are three years old. When we go out I always go thru the air pressure dance and give them a once over. I am expecting 6 years on these puppies. Remember the GY Rep that came out to RV Sales and told us how good his product is? Stay safe.
Moto

[rockintom]

Moto,

Your GYs are a different tire on your MH than ours on the trailer. I think yours are 670s. The 614s are at the edge of carrying capacity for our rigs anyway......than they had concerns with that tire with tread seperation just like Timo had (Classic case). Blow outs were another issue. Somewhere around Nov.07 build, they changed the processing of that tire to reduce this premature failure. To the best of the knowledge the newer ones are much better.

It kinda scary to monitor tire temps on a warm day. My GY 614s on our old Journey would run 155-159*F on a 90*F ambient temp day. That's darn warm. The tire folks will tell they will "for sure" fail at 170-175*F Kinda makes a guy nervous...don't it.

Boy am I glad I have the Michelin XTAs 17.5" on my new Journey! Just have a really good feeling about those tires. They sure have some margin on the load carring capacity. rockin'

[Workshop]

Tim, it's never good to have things like this happen...but glad it wasn't worst and everyone was ok and minor damage on the unit.

Chris

[KU9L]

I've been monitoring this on my RT. I am not sure if I have slightly more margin since our GVWR is 15K? We are close to our GVWR, but under at least & we travel without liquids.

My rims are Dexstar 16x6K 3750 lb., painted white steel of course.

Tires are GY LT235/85R16
DOT MJOR 610W 1608 (all 5).

I estimate 5300 miles on them so far, which includes the 1000(+/-) the dealer put on them for delivery. Knowing this, do I have 1 - 2 years left before I consider changing them or is this something I should do sooner?

We are planning on a new 5er ~2012 model year or so, but want to be prepared just in case. I keep the tires clean and lubed up with tire cleaner. The only issues I see so far are a couple of the washers on my metal valve stems up against my steel rims are looking a bit rusty. Life expectancy on them?

When I talked to the service center @ PI, Jack recommended to me I fill them to 105 psi for my RT. I religiously check them often even when sitting for 5 - 6 months, it is easy with the PressurePro system. My dealer claimed he filled them to 110 psi and after sitting in FL for 6 months they were still at 102 psi.

My 3 gallon portable air compressor does not go above 100 psi, so I bought a 10 lb Power Tank that easily fills way above that level. I had my General tires on my truck filled with Nitrogen, but turns out they only filled them to 65 psi (from the truck sticker - not the upgraded truck tire specs). I filled them the rest of the way to 80 psi with CO2 (Power Tank filled by a local fire extinguisher Co.). They seem to run about 90 psi max after getting hot pulling our RT. I have been topping our RT off at 105-106 psi and seem to run at 120 - 125 psi depending on outside temperature and altitude. My PressurePro sensors and Power Tank digital gage seem to differ about 4 - 5 PSI at 120 psi readings, but everything seems to be consistent relative to each other. The differences are smaller at 80 psi readings. The more I top off the truck & RT tires with CO2, the cooler they seem to run.

We will see how they all do when we leave W. CO for Rapid City, SD through WY in Mid-August, that should be a test of hot conditions although more flatter than Monarch Pass! Should I upgrade me included Continental Car Club emergency road service (from National Interstate) to Coach Net?

Dave

[motojavaphil]

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Originally Posted by rockintom Moto, Your GYs are a different tire on your MH than ours on the trailer. I think yours are 670s. The 614s are at the edge of carrying capacity for our rigs anyway......than they had concerns with that tire with tread seperation just like Timo had (Classic case). Blow outs were another issue. Somewhere around Nov.07 build, they changed the processing of that tire to reduce this premature failure. To the best of the knowledge the newer ones are much better. It kinda scary to monitor tire temps on a warm day. My GY 614s on our old Journey would run 155-159*F on a 90*F ambient temp day. That's darn warm. The tire folks will tell they will "for sure" fail at 170-175*F Kinda makes a guy nervous...don't it. Boy am I glad I have the Michelin XTAs 17.5" on my new Journey! Just have a really good feeling about those tires. They sure have some margin on the load carring capacity. rockin'

You are right Tom, they are the 670 series. My Pressure Pro monitors pressures but not temperatures. Nonetheless it does tell you when air pressure is increasing or decreasing in a 12% plus/minus margin.
If you have checked the pressures at the beginning of the day and 200 miles down the road you spike on a tire's pressure it could be a good indicator of a heat condition. I have had that happen twice and have pulled off for a quick cup of coffee, restart the system, and it is fine. I have suspected a system malfunction but never am sure. Also tire pressure checks done cold during the day can vary by 10psi depending on which side the sun is hitting. Some folks lower their pressure in response to a high reading on the sun side and end up under-inflated. We also weighed the rig which gave us an idea of tire pressures since handling and safety can have a lot to do with weights and pressures.
Just some thoughts since the season is still young and RV exuberance is peaking!
Moto

[rockintom]

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Originally Posted by motojavaphil You are right Tom, they are the 670 series. My Pressure Pro monitors pressures but not temperatures. Nonetheless it does tell you when air pressure is increasing or decreasing in a 12% plus/minus margin. If you have checked the pressures at the beginning of the day and 200 miles down the road you spike on a tire's pressure it could be a good indicator of a heat condition. I have had that happen twice and have pulled off for a quick cup of coffee, restart the system, and it is fine. I have suspected a system malfunction but never am sure. Also tire pressure checks done cold during the day can vary by 10psi depending on which side the sun is hitting. Some folks lower their pressure in response to a high reading on the sun side and end up under-inflated. We also weighed the rig which gave us an idea of tire pressures since handling and safety can have a lot to do with weights and pressures. Just some thoughts since the season is still young and RV exuberance is peaking! Moto

You are so right Moto.......the pressures change alot...with sunload and flexing while rolling heats them up. Cold check is the best. Supposedly, pure nitrogen in the tires pressure doesn't change as readily. But not worth the money most tire dealers charge. I won't mind having it, but not if I'm being charged. Air is made up of about 78% nitrogen. Pure nitrogen isn't suppose to naturally escape as easy as air thru the tire casing (normal condition when setting). Getting off topic....again. My point is to always check cold and before the sun gets to them!!!

While I'm thinking about it......David talked about doing all the good things to protect his tires.....he mentioned tire dressing. Be careful with the dressings......never use ones with petroleum products or solvents. They actually do more harm as it pertains to preserving the tire. Basically dries the tire out. So check your tire dressing for those items. I use the Pertectant 303 on mine with the tire covers when setting a while. The best thing to do to tires is run them down the road most of the times as, by design, they "lubricate" and self preserves itself. Back to work I go......rockin'

[Still Working "NOT"]

Your lucky day Tim.

I lost one tire at 4 years and the next one 4 1/2 years. Caught them both when they seperated or blew. I then bought all new the next day. One year later I traded then whole rig off with no damage to it in either tire problem. I believe that the reason for no damage was because of learning several years ago I lost a trailer tire on a pole trailer, never to be found. After that I check my mirrors, check my mirrors, check my mirrors. While a TPMS will tell you when you are losing air pressure, they are no good when the tire thread decides to leave.

See you next weekend. I'll make up some more truths (lies) about Rockyhead.

David, thats the same tire I had problems with. So change them out at four years or less.

[rockintom]

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Originally Posted by Still Working "NOT" After that I check my mirrors, check my mirrors, check my mirrors.

Yeah, still, I usually take a nap myself!!!!

[Still Working "NOT"]

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Originally Posted by rockintom Yeah, still, I usually take a nap myself!!!!

Guess now I need to look out for a LGT called Tugger coming at me on the wrong side of the road.

[KU9L]

The tire dressing I am using is made by the same folks who make the Ultra Ion waterless RV cleaner. The same tire cleaner also works magic on plastic, getting it clean & lubed without marring the finish. It actually lifted the dead butterfly chunks off my headlights and back of outside mirrors that the high pressure water spray wouldn't touch at the car wash. It is used and even distributed by some of the folks owning HDT's & high end S.O.B. coaches for many years so I think it is safe to use since they have been dealing with the same GY tire issues, but it always worth paying attention of course. The same factor here is a big help, one who spends 99% of his free time cleaning and maintaining his coach will be more in-tune with his breakdowns and repairs than one who washes it every couple of years with no other attention paid to it, LOL.

I almost needed many stitches today in my back. After writing down the DOT tire codes I decided to stand up, almost took off the plastic wheel cover on the slide-out. I have a 13" long raised bump 1/4" wide across my back that is trying its best to bleed through my shirt! I just came in from re-caulking the plastic fender corner that I messed up. The screws held it on good, except for the front wrap-around corner that is designed to flex in the event something hits it!!!!! Ouch!

Dave