electric rear stabilizer jacks

redcow · 07-02-2009, 06:29 PM

I know this has been discussed before but has anyone found a great way to have the jack pads hit the ground level or slide into position without sliding the trailer?

Also finally have the Winslow loaded and ready to go.

Red

rockintom · 07-02-2009, 07:49 PM

red, as I have mentioned offline....congrats on the new Winslow.

I don't understand your question, I guess. Are you talking about when you are not level front to rear enough that the pad of the rear stab jack can't do the turn around? Does you rear stabs have independent control switches like most everyone elses? Try again and we will try to help.

Hugs to Ms. Gloria and good-bye to the antique you had!!! You should put it out by the highway in front of your store to attract older clientele!!!!

Just funnin red. rockin'

redcow · 07-02-2009, 08:10 PM

This is what I meant Rockin'. I was just wondering if anyone came up with any other solution. When I put the jacks down they hit the ground at a slight angle and will shift the trailer a little one way or the other to get them flat on the ground.

This is what WORKSHOP came up with in an earlier post:
"Here is a photo of my pad. It's 2" x 8" x 8". I rounded off the corners, think it stores easier that way and takes less hits. Even with it being 'pressure treated' I stained it once and then Thompson Water Sealed it several times so it reduces the amount of moisture it might collect. I then installed a plastic pad from Camping World on one side. Depending on the surface it's going down on depends on where the plastic is. Here I have it up for the photo but on concrete it would normally be facing down.

You can see my illness as a finish carpenter.....have to sand, stain and finish everthing.

I know, should sand and paint the outriggers instead. So much to do.....so little time.

"

Red

Workshop · 07-02-2009, 09:02 PM

Red.....I should have sent you a picture of my repaired and painted outrigger that was used in the photo! Forgot how bad it looked.

What works for me is to touch each outrigger pad down without starting the stabizing/lift. When both are down and touching...I will start the lift/stabilizing by raising a little on each side untill the rear of the Excel is where I want it to be. I don't get that much 'sliding' that way.

Enjoy your new Winslow!

rockintom · 07-02-2009, 10:51 PM

I see......guess I've been lucky as I've never had my stab slide. Thank workhorse!!!

redcow · 07-03-2009, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Workshop

Red.....I should have sent you a picture of my repaired and painted outrigger that was used in the photo! Forgot how bad it looked.

What works for me is to touch each outrigger pad down without starting the stabizing/lift. When both are down and touching...I will start the lift/stabilizing by raising a little on each side untill the rear of the Excel is where I want it to be. I don't get that much 'sliding' that way.

Enjoy your new Winslow!

Workshop,

Thanks, I am sure the plastic pad helps the jack pad slide a little also. I will have to try that.

red

Workshop · 07-03-2009, 11:00 AM

Red if you are referring to the outriggers pad sliding when it hits the ground...I haven't noticed mine doing that unless the surface thats surpose to support it isn't stable. I use the pad for extra surface area for the foot to set on and help keep it clean. The bottom of those things do take the abuse.

Also haven't noticed the plastic creating any problems when setting the foot. Now since I just repainted the outriggers and completed some maintenance....will use adhesive to place a rubber pad under the foot. Material will be a thick rubber mat material as used in floor runners.

Here's two photos....the first shows the landing gear as it touches the ground. Nose a little high. As the outrigger is being extended...it places the back of the foot down and as the foot is being set, the nose swivels down as the back 'should' be planted.

Notice the spring that looks like a 'looooog' C. that is what helps set the foot. Notice in the second photo....it is compressed, the nose is down and the outrigger starts to lift the back of the unit.

Look at the foot as it is being set. Maybe yours isn't setting correctly and remaining high in the front causing it to slide a little.

redcow · 07-03-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Workshop

Red if you are referring to the outriggers pad sliding when it hits the ground...I haven't noticed mine doing that unless the surface thats surpose to support it isn't stable. I use the pad for extra surface area for the foot to set on and help keep it clean. The bottom of those things do take the abuse.

Also haven't noticed the plastic creating any problems when setting the foot. Now since I just repainted the outriggers and completed some maintenance....will use adhesive to place a rubber pad under the foot. Material will be a thick rubber mat material as used in floor runners.

Here's two photos....the first shows the landing gear as it touches the ground. Nose a little high. As the outrigger is being extended...it places the back of the foot down and as the foot is being set, the nose swivels down as the back 'should' be planted.

Notice the spring that looks like a 'looooog' C. that is what helps set the foot. Notice in the second photo....it is compressed, the nose is down and the outrigger starts to lift the back of the unit.

Look at the foot as it is being set. Maybe yours isn't setting correctly and remaining high in the front causing it to slide a little.

Workshop,

I am not explaining this very well. I will try again.
The pad is not sliding on the ground, the pad makes the trailer slide a little.

It is like you said, "Here's two photos....the first shows the landing gear as it touches the ground. Nose a little high. As the outrigger is being extended...it places the back of the foot down and as the foot is being set, the nose swivels down as the back 'should' be planted.".

The back of the foot touches the ground at quite an angle and digs into the ground before the nose swivels down thus moving the trailer to the side. If I put both gear down the pads stay at an angle unless I put a lot of pressure on them.
The next time I will look at the long c spring and see how it is compressed.

Hope that explained it better, I am even confused myself now.

No comments rockin'

red

rockintom · 07-03-2009, 05:13 PM

OMG

workhorse shore knows how to blow that black paint, don't he? work, is that #10 mother of pearl black?

Or just Imron???

Just teasin' causing mine look sooooo bad right now!

redcow · 07-03-2009, 06:43 PM

Tom and Workshop,

I think I have figured it out. They still come down at a severe angle but I think with some use the long c spring will loosen up enough to let the pads contact the ground in a better position.
I tried again this afternoon and held the pad level with very little resistance on the spring.

Thanks for not pickin' on me rockin'

At least not yet

red

Workshop · 07-03-2009, 07:56 PM

Red...glad you can see the possible cause. Is the 'opening' of your c spring that much wider than the one in the photo, causing the foot to have a higher angle? or Like you said...just needs to get broke in.

Tom...if it doesn't come in a small spray can, it might not get used! Its' Painters Choice in a Satin Black. Dries fast and flows well without overlap marks. They have come a long way with thiese things. Went with the Satin finish because my unit is 8 yrs old now and didn't want the Gloss finish to make the OutRiggers look that new.

workhorse

rockintom · 07-03-2009, 11:57 PM

It's late....I just say I like the satin finish better than gloss too. I don't think the new ones are even glossy! Nice job, as always, Workhorse!!!

There are times I just feel like packing it all up and come to JAX and let you do a "make over" on ol Journey!!! We could have a happy hour and analyze your fabulous work on a daily basis. We could let the girls get the drinks and handle the food....and us men sit back and scratch our you-know-whats and solve the world's problems....keep dreamin' rockin!!!

BookIIRoadtrash · 07-04-2009, 06:40 AM

Red, When I had that style of rear stabilizers in a couple of my setups the rear of the lot was higher than the front not allowing anyway for the foot to go flat, after getting my width level I lowered the front until I could get the foot of the stabilizer flat and then raised the front level again.

redcow · 07-04-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Highplains Drifter

Red, When I had that style of rear stabilizers in a couple of my setups the rear of the lot was higher than the front not allowing anyway for the foot to go flat, after getting my width level I lowered the front until I could get the foot of the stabilizer flat and then raised the front level again.

Highplains Drifter,

That is another good idea...I will try different things until I find something that works.

Also, did you actually see a Winslow at North Platte or were you just smelling the scent of one that had been there the week before

You can send me a PM if you want because I think I remember something about you

Rockin', are you scared to pick on me now in fear of paybacks

Red