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How to repair the band around the Pivot-EZ brackets
10-31-2011, 10:15 PM
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Hey all,
Lookin' for suggestions on replacing the rubber liner for the pivot ez bracket. I think it had a rubber liner on it, like a tire tube. Any suggestions on material I can use to replace the missing liner?
Thanks!
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10-31-2011, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce and Jenna
Hey all,
Lookin' for suggestions on replacing the rubber liner for the pivot ez bracket. I think it had a rubber liner on it, like a tire tube. Any suggestions on material I can use to replace the missing liner?
Thanks!
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Bruce,
I assume you are talking about the band that surrounds the ABS outlet. I noticed mine is loose and the bolt that tightens the band is tight. I don't see any rubber liner in mine. As many times I've dealt with the things in that area I don't remember seeing the liner you are describing. Maybe one of our resident experts will chime in here. Tomorrow we get to our winter destination and I have a few of these little things to do for sure.
If that band does have a rubber liner, I would think that weatherstrip adhesive applied to one side of it would be in order to keep it from working loose. rockin'
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11-01-2011, 06:59 AM
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Bruce I'm not sure what you are referring to as a 'liner' ? On my 2001, I didn't have any rubber on my bracket when I purchased the unit used.
If you can take a picture of the area your referring to.....
In the 101 section....starting with my post # 58. The Pivot EZ, I did several post on the Pivot EZ and the cradle. I did add a section of weather strip to help hold the cradle when stored.
Hope something helped.
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11-01-2011, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Workshop
Bruce I'm not sure what you are referring to as a 'liner' ? On my 2001, I didn't have any rubber on my bracket when I purchased the unit used.
If you can take a picture of the area your referring to.....
In the 101 section....starting with my post # 58. The Pivot EZ, I did several post on the Pivot EZ and the cradle. I did add a section of weather strip to help hold the cradle when stored.
Hope something helped.
workhorse
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Here's the pic you posted.........we are talking about what you call the EZ Pivot bracket. The part that surrounds the outlet piece with a 3/8 bolt that tightens the strap around the outlet. Does it have a rubber liner or the like on it? Wonder if a wrap or 2 of Gorilla tape would work long term? rockin'
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11-01-2011, 09:39 AM
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Ours also has the rubber liner--Bruce's description is exactly what it looks like, a small piece of rubber inner tube. I thought I read somewhere else that Rockins suggestion of a wrap of Gorrilla tape would work-but I'm not sure where.
While discussing the sewer set up--did anyone get the info on the thickness and length of hose used by PI to fit in the EZ Pivot? I think I saw recently that they advertise 20' in their brochure or somewhere, but what about the thickness.
I remember someone saying they had trouble getting the hose back in if it was too long or too heavy for the carrier. I already fight it sometimes when it's cold out or I have had it extended all the way out. I want to replace it this winter, but would just as soon get the same weight and length as its held up fairly well.
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11-01-2011, 05:17 PM
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Could it be that what you are talking about is a piece of EPDM rubber that we put between the gear clamp and the sewer hose on the "flexable elbow". In the past few years, we began using a piece of scrap EPDM rubber roof material to help protect the hose from being damaged by the gear clamp. Other things will work also, such as duct tape or electrical tape. It just works better to have something between the gear clamp and sewer hose.
I hope this is what you are referring to.
thanks,
Bryan
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11-01-2011, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rockintom
Here's the pic you posted.........we are talking about what you call the EZ Pivot bracket. The part that surrounds the outlet piece with a 3/8 bolt that tightens the strap around the outlet. Does it have a rubber liner or the like on it? Wonder if a wrap or 2 of Gorilla tape would work long term? rockin'
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Washout, check back with me at a future date on the Gorilla Tape solution. I applied it back in early September. So far, so good.
Still, I'm a little worried that I may be in trouble here - coming up with the same fixes as our buddy Washout thinks up.    If you happen to notice any further significant "drift" toward (left coast) Washout on my part please don't hesitate to send a harshly worded PM this way. Thanks!!!  
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11-01-2011, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ExcelRVGuy
Could it be that what you are talking about is a piece of EPDM rubber that we put between the gear clamp and the sewer hose on the "flexable elbow". In the past few years, we began using a piece of scrap EPDM rubber roof material to help protect the hose from being damaged by the gear clamp. Other things will work also, such as duct tape or electrical tape. It just works better to have something between the gear clamp and sewer hose.
I hope this is what you are referring to.
thanks,
Bryan
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Thanks for responding Bryan. This is not what we are talking about. This is the band and bracket we are talking about. Mine is loose and it doesn't appear that it had any rubber lining or anything between the band and the outlet. The bolt is tight but the band still moves around on the sewer outlet. Hope that helps you understand our issue. Thanks, rockin'
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11-01-2011, 07:25 PM
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Guys, in the past the coaches came from the factory with a couple of pieces of black plastic about 1-1/2" wide (looked like expanded metal), I could never keep them inside the clamp. What has worked very well for me is a 1-1/2" wide piece of schedule 20 PVC cut from a 3" pipe, cut it in half and they fit right in there and tighten down like the equipment is supposed to. Hope this helps!
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11-01-2011, 08:22 PM
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Washout got the pictures of the bracket that Bruce is talking about from what I understand. When I made an adjustment on mine back in Sept., there is a piece of what appears to be plastic, EPDM or something that serves as spacer between the bracket and the pipe. This would prevent wear on the pipe as we swing the Pivot Ease around when setting up camp. Since campgrounds never have their sewer hookups in the same location. This helps better supporting the pipe and allows s small degree of slippage preventing a leak in the future.
Jim, great minds think alike. I just trying to figure out what happened with Washout to start thinking like a great mind. Maybe there is hope for the Ole dog.
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11-02-2011, 07:08 AM
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The reason I had trouble following the question is because I didn't have any rubber 'tube' on any of my connections. Here is a picture of mine before I rebuilt it last year. There was a band of metal webbing between the bracket and pipe. It was also installed on the Pivot EZ. During the rebuilding/painting, I replaced the metal with a thin strip of rubber...as used for shop floor mats.
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11-02-2011, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bigmichael
While discussing the sewer set up--did anyone get the info on the thickness and length of hose used by PI to fit in the EZ Pivot? I think I saw recently that they advertise 20' in their brochure or somewhere, but what about the thickness.
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I used the Blueline system from Camping World. I also carry two 10' sections and extra connections as my post shows. During our recent trip to Jekyll Island...I used all of it to make a connection.
The current catalog shows the hose as 10' ? I bought a single length hose, I thought it was 20 ft to use as the Pivot EZ hose and purchased an additional 10' as the second spare. The hose does compress within my Pivot EZ tube. The current catalog show a 25ft hose...I thought it was 20'....might have to measure it this evening after I get home.
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11-03-2011, 10:07 AM
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Thanks Bryan for the reply. Washout is right tho. I was referring to the contact between the bracket and the PVC gear, as in his pics. [Gee, his Pivot EZ is so clean!]
So what's the verdict here? Gorilla tape sounds like a good bet if you wrap several layers. And I have some, always a deciding factor. Don't know about schedule 20 PVC. I don't know the thickness, and I had trouble adding a rubber layer about 1/8" thick.
Thanks much for the ideas. I might even wash mine when I work on it.
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11-03-2011, 11:35 AM
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The Gorilla tape thing sounds OK....but I don't think I'm gonna need more than 2 wraps on mine. I just wonder how durable it will be long term. If you see and understand the mechanism (band and bracket) workings, you'd see that area takes a big load and when you take the pivot all the way around to the rear (toward the rear wheels) like on a long sewer hook up like on a rear sewer point, then that bracket tries to twist. We'll see....hope we here something from Bryan. rockin'
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