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Plus, I discovered yesterday that they gave me the wrong tool to lower my spare tire. Heck that's worth the trip alone!

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We discovered that we don't have a tool for that either. Must remember to get one when we are in SC at the end of September </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Am I missing something? My "spare tire carrier" tool is a offset 3/4" box end rachet wrench....nothing special. Maybe new models have something different. What's up? rockin' </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The above comes from my recent discussion about bumps on my slide roofs. Not being able to change my tire, I called (very nice) Donna in PI Parts.
For the first time, I learned that PI does not supply the tool to lower the spare tire. Nor do they supply a lug wrench for these 16" tires. (That lug wrench looking tool is a backup device for the stabilizers.)
Which would explain why the manual has no information about changing a tire. (
Hey ExcelRVGuy 
- maybe a simple entry in the manual that the customer should purchase these tools. Otherwise one (me) finds out at the most inconvenient time. I couldn't even tell a tow truck operator in advance what I needed to get the spare tire down. Come to think of it, a page with suggested stuff a new owner should purchase. I know that Lazy Daze puts this in their manual and I found it very helpful.)
Anyway, this post serves as notice to others unaware. And to ask what tools you purchased. I figure to get a good
X lug wrench. Tom mentioned "a offset 3/4" box end rachet wrench." But as far as I can see, and I can't see much in that little hole, I need a tool to insert into a female hex end. Maybe ½" across or so. Maybe PI changed the mechanism since Tom purchased his trailer way back in 2005. Hey Tom, do you have indoor plumbing in that old thing, or was it an option?

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Good Lord Bruce...take a breath!

Are we venting or ranting?

You are fussing about no lug wrench, but it makes me wonder what the heck you've been using to do your torque check on your lugs or do a tire change in the last almost year? I guess I've never seen a fifth wheel that offers a lug wrench. Maybe some do.
You are right buddy my old Journey is over 3 yrs. old. Indoor plumbing, yeah, but just barely! Lots has change since then. Just to clarify, I've put in a pic of the wrench I was describing connected the shaft that lowers and raises the spare tire carrier. Check it out.
Bruce, remember mental illness never takes a holiday! BTW, We love your blog. The other day my lovely bride was reading it and just started cracking up outloud! What a riot! Thanks, Tom