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Old 11-29-2009, 01:39 PM   #1
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Storing an Excel

I am going to store “In-Between and Cummin‘ ” until around the First of March. I have heated storage at 55 degrees so I do not have to winterize with antifreeze. My question is I am leaving the cable valves closed, so should I use the valve lubricant or Dove dish soap?
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Old 11-29-2009, 03:59 PM   #2
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I'd use the Thetford Valve Lubricant. I thought you were gonna live in the rig in the storage building? rockin'
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Old 11-29-2009, 09:52 PM   #3
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Tom, the soap is Excel’s suggestion. My biggest concern is the cable valve for the fresh water tank. How many flushings and water wasted will one have to do to get any residue out of the fresh water tank? No, just going to store it this place is a lot cheaper and I am going to live on a boat for about three weeks and then motel it for about six until the weather gets tolerable.
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Tom, the soap is Excel’s suggestion. My biggest concern is the cable valve for the fresh water tank. How many flushings and water wasted will one have to do to get any residue out of the fresh water tank?
Go back and reread what Excel wrote...nowhere does it say to put this soap mixture in your FRESH water tank! They are talking about putting the mixture in your holding tank, specifically your black water tank.

I can't see how doing what Excel suggests in their article would affect the fresh water tank in any way.
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Go back and reread what Excel wrote...nowhere does it say to put this soap mixture in your FRESH water tank! They are talking about putting the mixture in your holding tank, specifically your black water tank.

I can't see how doing what Excel suggests in their article would affect the fresh water tank in any way.
Linda H, I think in 2008 Excel started using a cable valve like the one used for the gray water tank, for the fresh water tank. It is a nice way to empty the tank and quick too. One doesn’t have to drive down the road leaving a water trail. I am thinking of using olive oil and water mixture for a lubricate in the fresh water tank. I don’t think any residue from olive oil will kill me or hurt my water pump.



Rockin, I use the Thetford Valve Lubricate at least once a month. Years ago I put some in some water and it didn’t seem like it wanted to mix very will, so I put some with four gallons of warm water and mix it before placing it in my tanks. I know as anal as you are what is the proper way to use it?





I just threw the Excel suggestion of dove soap , out to see if any of the members here are using it and how they like it.
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but a little lesson learned. If you dump your freshwater tank with the pivot ease in the travel position, stay well away from the trailer (or take advantage of it and bring bath soap & a towel.)
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Linda H, I think in 2008 Excel started using a cable valve like the one used for the gray water tank, for the fresh water tank.
Yes, our Excel has a cable valve for opening the fresh water tank. But...and someone can correct me if I'm wrong...I don't think that cable goes into the fresh water tank at all or in any way touches the water in that tank. So it shouldn't make any difference what you put on it.
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Linda and Woody,

The fresh water valve on my '05 is a 1-1/2" just like the grey valve and it is a cable drive....just like the grey valve. As far as I know they have been using this set up for a long time. Since the fresh water doesn't have the "gunk and stuff" in it I don't think there is an area of concern as far as winterizing the valve....just empty it good and then close the valve. I understand with the valve closed you don't have to worry about any distortion with the seals and to keep the little creatures out. rockin'
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but a little lesson learned. If you dump your freshwater tank with the pivot ease in the travel position, stay well away from the trailer (or take advantage of it and bring bath soap & a towel.)
Woody....what in the heck are you talking about???? We been FTing in out Excel for almost 5 years..and I change my fresh every 2 weeks....never had a problem..... rockin'
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Woody....what in the heck are you talking about???? We been FTing in out Excel for almost 5 years..and I change my fresh every 2 weeks....never had a problem..... rockin'

I am saying the valve for dumping the Fresh Water tank is a 1.5 inch just like the one for the gray water dump. Now you use Thetford valve lubricant for the black and gray cable valves, but you aren’t going to worry about the rubber seal for the fresh water dump? I am storing the rig for some time and want to have a lubricant in the fresh water tank so that seal doesn’t dry out….that is why I am thinking of using olive oil and wanted some feed back on a safe lubricant that is not going to kill me or damage my water pump.
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but a little lesson learned. If you dump your freshwater tank with the pivot ease in the travel position, stay well away from the trailer (or take advantage of it and bring bath soap & a towel.)
Double D, mine dumps from the belly and you should know that too!!!
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BTW, what is the last 3 digits of your VIN? Just curious. Does your rig have the new "no fresh water fill inlet on the side of the rig"? Mine only has the on and off valve at the manobloc to fill the fresh water tank and has a hose next to the fresh water dump pipe to let you know when it's full.
Wonder how to sanitize the fresh water tank if it needed it. It's not really a problem with me as I change the water in the FW tank about every 2 weeks. But many folks don't do that......again just wondering.

Rockin, this is what one with an eighth grade education would do…



1 Turn off the source of water
2 Unhook the water hose
3 Drain some liquid out of the hose
4 Pour disinfectant into the hose
5 Reconnect the hose
6 turn of supply of water and push the disinfectant into the fresh water tank..
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